not so fast cloth
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Check Simonis Billiard Factory Cloth for your Home Table.
http://www.simoniscloth.com/simonis-styles/simonis-billiard-factory-cloth
I have A LOT of pool table cloth options for you.
Rob.M
http://www.simoniscloth.com/simonis-styles/simonis-billiard-factory-cloth
I have A LOT of pool table cloth options for you.
Rob.M
Simonis 860 HR
1. You can have your table mech re install the cloth on the table and not stretch it so tight. He can make it fast or slow or inbetween. My 860 is medium slow by my choice.
2, Have your mech put new 860 on and make it the speed you want from jump street.
If you play in pool rooms that have 860, you should have 860 at home. It plays different
than other cloth. You will only have to adjust to a different speed, not a different cloth.
Good luck
2, Have your mech put new 860 on and make it the speed you want from jump street.
If you play in pool rooms that have 860, you should have 860 at home. It plays different
than other cloth. You will only have to adjust to a different speed, not a different cloth.
Good luck
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New cloth plays fast and slippery....just break it in by playing...it'll slow down.
Really? I thought HR was faster than regular 860...higher nylon content or something. I'm going to google it.
Edit: "Simonis 860HR combines the legendary strength and performance of the Simonis 760 and Simonis 860 blends into one cloth to give you the best of both worlds.
Simonis 860HR has the same blend of wool/nylon that 760 has, but has the same thread count as 860. The difference is that 860 and 860HR is approximately 70/30 wool/nylon. The shaving process is also changed slightly, leaving more or less a 100% wool surface on the cloth, which is why the cloth doesn't show marks (ball burns) as much as 760.
Simonis 860HR is slightly faster than the standard 860."
From these folks...whoever they are, lol.
https://www.pooltablefeltcloth.com/simonis/product/860hr.html
I never new
I always thought it was high resistance
Meaning slower,
Greg Sullivan (Diamond Tables) a year or so ago was trying too get Simonis Cloth to
make a slower cloth to be called "960", as he also felt 860 was to fast especially on
the Bar table. Many Pros and good players had also been asking Greg for a slower
cloth. I don't know what ever became of the request to Simonis, but I to would love to
have a slower Simonis.
make a slower cloth to be called "960", as he also felt 860 was to fast especially on
the Bar table. Many Pros and good players had also been asking Greg for a slower
cloth. I don't know what ever became of the request to Simonis, but I to would love to
have a slower Simonis.
Generally I find that when people complain about the cloth on a pool table, it's because they'd rather blame the cloth for their true lack of skills to adapt to it. It's kind of like you keep going through cues left and right because you're looking for that ONE cue you can win with, overlooking that fact that the reason you keep losing may not be because of the current cue you have in your hands, in fact....it may not have anything to do with the cue at all.
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cobra
i know i don't play very good
but bigger pockets and not so fast cloth or tables that bank right
make the game more fun
i know what i like and ,i don't care what others prefer
but when i hear that greg sullivan has the same ideas,when i see cohan and bustamente missing shots and shape on the fast tight ,short banking tables
i step up and say,the equipment is goofy
i want a table to play like the old gold crowns,maybe a little faster
maybe not
i am tired of remarks that say its the indian not the arrow
i have no illusions about improving,i just want to play the same game
i used to play
i am going to change my table or buy another one
i know i don't play very good
but bigger pockets and not so fast cloth or tables that bank right
make the game more fun
i know what i like and ,i don't care what others prefer
but when i hear that greg sullivan has the same ideas,when i see cohan and bustamente missing shots and shape on the fast tight ,short banking tables
i step up and say,the equipment is goofy
i want a table to play like the old gold crowns,maybe a little faster
maybe not
i am tired of remarks that say its the indian not the arrow
i have no illusions about improving,i just want to play the same game
i used to play
i am going to change my table or buy another one
I told you quite a while back that if you didn't want as fast of a playing table, then don't have a worsted wool cloth put on it, to in fact, have Championship Titan cloth installed....but, you didn't listen to me, and you let the mechanics install Simonis again.
championship titan?
i sometimes don't hear or listen
is anyone else using this cloth?how do you like it
my kling is for sale,if not i will try another cloth
the table plays good
the fast cloth is for most people but i
don't play good and i can not control whitey or my banks speed is giving me trouble
i sometimes don't hear or listen
is anyone else using this cloth?how do you like it
my kling is for sale,if not i will try another cloth
the table plays good
the fast cloth is for most people but i
don't play good and i can not control whitey or my banks speed is giving me trouble
I had titan on my 9 ft for 5 years, it does play better but banks and position routes in tournaments at the pool hall will be frustrating.
Donoc only plays one pocket at home.
I was under the impression 860HR is a little faster than 860, am I wrong about that?
They're pretty much the same, but the HR isn't as slippery as the normal 90/10 Simonis, and the HR is way more resistant to ball burnish marks, and humidity has less effect on it. But an kind of worsted woolen cloth is going to be to fast for Deans liking.
Shows what I know, I took high resistance as in slow
When it seems that it's high resistance to wear
Look Dean, I hear and understand what you're wanting out of your home table, but you're going about it the wrong way. Here's the problem as I see it. This is 2016, but you want the equipment you're playing on at home to play....like the tables you use to play on back in the late 50's through the 60's....as you remember them playing. Problem is, times have moved on. Cloth has improved, tables have improved....cues have improved, but....you want today to still be like yesteryear....but it's not. You've had GCs, you've had many tables, but the end result is always the same....get rid of the table because this isn't right, or that isn't right. You point out other players missing shots and blame their miss on fast cloth, when they missed the shots because....well, they just plain missed the shots, no other reason. You quote Greg Sullivan as yes, the cloth plays to fast for 7ft tables....wRon answer....and the reason is....why should it take any more effort to play position on a 7ft table than it takes to play position on a 9ft. If you have to draw the cue ball back 12" to get position on the next shot, why should it.take more effort to make that shot on a 7ft than on a 9ft...if it's the same draw shot. The Diamond 7fts can be slowed down without having to come up with another NEW Simonis cloth. Does anyone remember the "special" IPT cloth?
What happened to THAT cloth after the IPT failed and all the tables with that cloth on them? I'll tell you what happened, people replaced that shaggy carpet of a cloth as fast as they could with a better playing cloth....that's what happened!