2016 World 9-Ball Championship

As I like to say the balls know who supposed to win. AO was playing well. Got all the rolls and SVB was out of sorts. Probably ran out of gas and just didn't have the mental reserve to dig out. Two finals will wear on your mind but he's grabbed the brass ring enough to know how to get it done. This year was Mr. Ouschan's year. Though Shane doesn't probably feel that way getting to the dance after playing a bunch of BB and then jumping on a plane is a major hurtle to climb. I think his Semi Final frazzled his last good nerve.


On a side note despite the lack of English commentary the stream in HD was top quality. We can say what we want but the production value was exemplary.
 
POVPOOL said:
That's gotta be the worst closing and awards ceremony that I've ever seen in my life for pool. Congrats to the players but shame on the producers and the promotors who have no clue what they are doing.
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I didn't watch the ceremony.....can someone explain
 
Physiqz said:
Unfortunately if you do not play bar box you will not earn enough money to stay afloat in this day and age of pool.
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For the average pool player this might be true, but I don't think SVB has a money problem.. I don't know the facts to be honest, but I'm guessing he could afford it for a year.
 
Cardigan Kid said:
Exactly. Exactly.
The best Athletes in the world get rattled all the time, but it is the coaching that dials them back in. Golfer's have their caddy, Michael Jordan had Phil Jackson, the list goes on and on.

We had a great discussion last year after the world 9-ball, when Ko spent time with his dad/coach during that crucial time out and Shane just sat in his chair and self-coached.

Here is the link for anyone who didn't read this....

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=5299065

We can ask again this year- what if, just what if, after last year, Shane moved to Germany for one year and trained with Ralf Eckert, or moved to the Netherlands and trained under Johan Ruijsink, or a similar situation and played Euro Tour for an entire year?

Could his safeties been tighter down the stretch?
Could his mindset been a little stronger down the stretch?
Could his fundamentals been tightened up when out of line?

We will never know so it is just specualtion - but I believe his top potential is unlimited and only a pool coach of the highest calibre can bring that out.

and of course - STOP PLAYING BAR BOX!!!!! :eek:
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That's a great thread, I must have missed it. I especially like the pictures of the body language.

Maybe it's the Mosconi Cup losses, and maybe it's other things going on in the US, but I hate feeling like it's become a flaw in our national character and not just specific to pool playing. We've lost our ability to look objectively at our flaws and try to correct them. Too much time shouting USA USA We're Numer One and not enough time humbly thinking about our weaknesses and trying to improve ourselves. Ah well I know it's a generalization. It just depresses me to see Mr. USA collapse, especially to a friggin European. :angry: :D
 
Jaden said:
He played extremely well...

I do have to ask though... Has ANYONE other than Shane ever been in BTB world nineball finals?

Shane's day WILL come...

Jaden
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Earl won back to back world titles in 1990 and 1991.

Archer won in 1997 and was runner-up in 1998.
 
I don't believe that playing on the bar boxes had any affect on transitioning to the 9 foot tables. An hour of practice should be more than enough to make the adjustment for a smart player at the Masters and Pro levels.
 
If the barbox affected Shane so negatively how did he beat so many monsters n get to the finals? Oh and look how much avoiding playing barbox in preparation for 9 foot play did for Darren. I'm pretty sure I read it was a scheduling conflict for darren not playing the barbox I'm just using him as an exapme because people argued he was not playing the barbox because he didn't want it affecting his game and he had a poor showing and on the other side Shane plays both barbox tournaments and still flys to Qatar n has an exceptional tournament missing being world champ by a smudge.

For Shane especially he's played all games on all size tables his whole pool career so it won't matter going from barbox to 9 ft to 8 ball to 9 ball to one pocket he's going to play world class regardless. He came short because Possibly he ran out of gas or because albin was in top form looking u beatable or because sometimes it's not meant to be. To say one certain thing caused Shane to come in 2nd n not 1st is ludicrous. He had a great tournament but Albin had a better one. Albin is allowed to have a better tournament he's showed the last few years he plays world class and is very deserving of this title.

Congrats to all players who mAde the trip and especially those who did well.

Ps congrats to rob hart for putting himself out there making the trip and gaining necessary experience to get better. More importantly congrats on being the first African American to play in the tournament
 
barrymuch90 said:
Ps congrats to rob hart for putting himself out there making the trip and gaining necessary experience to get better. More importantly congrats on being the first African American to play in the tournament
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Agreed. Going into it, I was looking forward to watching him play. Shame I never got the chance.
 
AtLarge said:
Yes, I know Jasmin's was in 10-Ball -- still a WPA World Championship.
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In the billiard world....there are a couple world champions in the same family.

The Davis brothers...Joe and Fred....snooker and English billiards

Walter Lindrum...English billiards...his nephew, Horace, snooker
 
nycdarkness said:
Everytime I watch Albin play it's amazing how just unfazed he looks.
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I watched him in the World Junior 9-ball championships back in 2004 and he was already like that, emotionless and extremely focused. He was already really good by then but he was outclassed by Wu Chia Ching and Wu Yu Lun (who won the event). I think it was Wu Yu Lun that beat Albin that year and he just pummeled him with packages, the two Taiwan players were both already playing world class pro level pool by that age (as Wu Chia Ching showed shortly after).

John Morra and Jason Klatt were also playing that year (neither played even close to the level of the Wu's at that time and IMO Albin was noticeably better and WAY mentally stronger under the pressure at that time, it was a good year to watch future pros in the juniors.
 
sjm said:
Yeah, that was some shot! This is a new improved Albin, far better than the Albin we saw at the 2015 Mosconi Cup.
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Albin has a mentality that makes him way more dangerous and comfortable in single player competition. The type of focus he uses in these high pressure situations is internal and zones out the external world beyond the game. You cannot do that in the MC not only because of the crowd, but because of the format of the event, the teammates you always have to high five and talk to, and the constant commercial break and production stuff delaying the game and killing the chance to really just focus on pool.
 
THE MONTREALER said:
There is no Money in POOL try snooker where the money is
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Physiqz said:
I would rather play the game I love, i'll leave snooker alone.
Besides Snooker is not big in the states. I dont even think we have a snooker table anywhere in SC.
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You can't want what you want, Lenny.
If it was only about money, why would anybody play billiards?
...more money in being a rock star or an actor.

Personally, I hold with equal value, one-pocket, straight pool, snooker, and 3-cushion.

some pasttimes give people a thrill...you can't make that happen.
 
Celtic said:
Albin has a mentality that makes him way more dangerous and comfortable in single player competition. The type of focus he uses in these high pressure situations is internal and zones out the external world beyond the game. You cannot do that in the MC not only because of the crowd, but because of the format of the event, the teammates you always have to high five and talk to, and the constant commercial break and production stuff delaying the game and killing the chance to really just focus on pool.
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Ouschan also did well in his first Mosconi Cup appearance last year.

In singles he was 2-0, defeating Dechaine and Woodward (in the Cup-clenching match).

In doubles he was 2-1, teaming with Feijen to beat Deuel and Bergman, teaming with Boyes to beat Dechaine and Woodward, and teaming with Appleton in a loss to Van Boening and Woodward.
 
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