Albin Ouschan

CokerFan82 said:
Correct me if I am wrong please, but don't the European's make a Salary for being ranked a "B" level professional or higher in the Euro tour? I heard recently that Neils Feijen makes a professional salary at the level he competes at in the Netherlands.

$30,000 yr. iirc
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Niels had this "A" status for quite a few years, this only happens in the Netherlands though.
It is paid for by the noc-nsf which is the governing body for all top athletes (mainly olympic sports).
You need a medal in the European Championships or final 8 in the world championships to get this.

Not sure how it works exactly in Austria, but it would suprise me if the governement paid Albin
any kind of money.

As to Albin gambling, don't know either way.

regards, Dave.
 
gxman said:
I would love to see winner breaks, race to 30 9b between albin and shane. Diamond 9ft 4.25" pockets.

For 10K each. Somebody please set this up. There should be plenty of bad blood especially IF euro wins MC this yr and both plays
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Bad blood how? They've only played each other like once...

Talk about a rivalry!

Edit: Well twice, I forgot about the joke that is the Challenge of Champions.
 
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Sure, I don't mind answering your questions. I suppose your questions are natural without any hidden agenda.

I have come to really enjoy watching the one-on-one tournament gambling matches, called "FIGHT NIGHT" that www.PoolActionTv has made popular.

Albin is not particularly well-known here in the U.S.A. His sister is probably better known than he is, at least on this continent.

IF Albin gambles, I think it would be a great attraction for those of us who enjoy those one-on-one matches and a great way to introduce him to that audience.

IF Albin doesn't gamble, then it doesn't mean anything to me (negative or positive) and simply answers a question for me. If the answer is no, then I can just put that thought to sleep.

A pool-playing man or woman doesn't have to gamble to have value in my eyes. But if they do gamble, I would like to support finding him or her an appropriate match to showcase his skills.


JoeyA


bbb said:
just curious why you want to know that?
if the answer is yes what does that mean to you?
if the answer is no what does that mean to you ?
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Tramp Steamer said:
Not necessarily. If your bet is ten dollars, and you've only got five in your pocket, then that can be tougher than a three dollar steak. :)
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But..

1. How many professional pool players actually gamble their own money?

and

2. How many professional pool players actually have $5 in their pocket?
 
Kris_b1104 said:
Bad blood how? They've only played each other like once...

Talk about a rivalry!

Edit: Well twice, I forgot about the joke that is the Challenge of Champions.
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Not so much a rivalry, but it would be a chance for Shane to get some redemption. Albin just prevented Shane from getting the most sought after achievement in pro pool.

At the moment, I dont think theres another player anyone would rather see Shane play big stakes rotation against.

Albin was on team Euro MC 2015 also.
 
gxman said:
Not so much a rivalry, but it would be a chance for Shane to get some redemption. Albin just prevented Shane from getting the most sought after achievement in pro pool.

At the moment, I dont think theres another player anyone would rather see Shane play big stakes rotation against.

Albin was on team Euro MC 2015 also.
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Let Albin play Ko. Let the winner play Orcollo. Wake Shane up when it's worth putting up with the crap.

In the meantime watch the old TAR matches.

Cuetec should re-sponsor Earl to travel with Shane as a coach.:smile:
 
JoeyA said:
Sure, I don't mind answering your questions. I suppose your questions are natural without any hidden agenda.

I have come to really enjoy watching the one-on-one tournament gambling matches, called "FIGHT NIGHT" that www.PoolActionTv has made popular.

Albin is not particularly well-known here in the U.S.A. His sister is probably better known than he is, at least on this continent.

IF Albin gambles, I think it would be a great attraction for those of us who enjoy those one-on-one matches and a great way to introduce him to that audience.

IF Albin doesn't gamble, then it doesn't mean anything to me (negative or positive) and simply answers a question for me. If the answer is no, then I can just put that thought to sleep.

A pool-playing man or woman doesn't have to gamble to have value in my eyes. But if they do gamble, I would like to support finding him or her an appropriate match to showcase his skills.


JoeyA
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I know everyone in the world reads AZB, just not many World Champs or players from other countries.

I will go way out on a limb and hang from a twig.

I will take a guess that after 21,577 posts you are well aware that the majority of participants and posters on AZB are from the U.S.
look at the location from the replies.

Although it's available around the world there are very few who indulge. They could care less to join, forget posting, just a guess you know this.

If Albin is not particularly well known in the U.S. why would you look here for the answer.
Why don't you just ask Albin.
He is easy to contact through facebook or email.

You can have the answer to your question straight from the horse, probably in minutes.
I can get you his phone number if he says it's ok.

Albin is very easy to talk to; you can support and find him a match if he agrees instead of trolling it on here.
Albin is not a new kid on the block. I am sure he needs you to showcase his skills.

I guess the U.S. and the rest of the world didn't watch the Mosconi Cup.
Maybe only the Chinese know they hold pool tourneys.
 
just curious,why everytime Shane loses people here will start a thread asking if the opponent would play him long race and higher stake?It is also the same people saying Shane has nothing to prove as he is already a World class player.I like Shane and I think a thread like this show a disrespect to him.i might just mis interpreting the post but Shane don't have to gamble with Albin.
 
Pool scenes and culture are quite different in various areas of the world.

In America pool and gambling have a long history and players in America as a result have a lot of experience when it comes to gambling. As a result it does not take most Americans out of their comfort zone.

Europe has a different pool culture and tournaments and trophies are far more important to them as a whole and as a result they play far better in these types of situations. For most Europeans gambling is not something they are used to or comfortable with and as such they are not likely to compete at their top level in a high stakes gambling match.

This being the case it is generally unfair to compare players from two vastly different pool cultures in a gambling match when one is comfortable in that type of match and the other is not.

If you want to compare an American in a gambling match against someone from elsewhere in the world pick a place like the Philippines where gambling is also commonplace and the players are comfortable doing it.
 
Neil said:
It's not really that tourneys are tougher, it's more of a different mind set. Tourneys are like sprinters, and gamblers are like marathon runners.
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Except a tournament requires winning 8 or so sprints in a row against other sprinters while the gambler needs only win one long marathon against one other runner.

You have to win a lot of matches over multiple days to win the World 9-ball Championship, it is not one little sprint.

It is funny because marathon runner SVB basically said he ran out of gas at the end against so called "sprinter" Albin in his post after the match. Winning an event like that is a huge grind of constant long term pressure, it is no sprint and I am sure SVB would say the same.
 
JoeyA said:
But if they do gamble, I would like to support finding him or her an appropriate match to showcase his skills.
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Albin just won World 9 ball showcasing to the world but he still has to showcase his skills in some gambling match
:)


gxman said:
Not so much a rivalry, but it would be a chance for Shane to get some redemption. Albin just prevented Shane from getting the most sought after achievement in pro pool.
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That only makes Shane look bad and look like sore loser coming so soon after his loss.


jaycast16 said:
just curious,why everytime Shane loses people here will start a thread asking if the opponent would play him long race and higher stake?It is also the same people saying Shane has nothing to prove as he is already a World class player.I like Shane and I think a thread like this show a disrespect to him.i might just mis interpreting the post but Shane don't have to gamble with Albin.
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True.
Silly really cos these people are only magnifying the loss and making Shane look like sore loser. What Shane wants now is time off and go fishing to forget this ordeal :)
 
spartan said:
Albin just won World 9 ball showcasing to the world but he still has to showcase his skills in some gambling match
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The more absurd thing about Joey's comment there was that he thought Albin would actually need some nobody on AZBilliards to let him know that SVB happens to gamble at pool and would likely accept a match against Albin if he were so inclined.

Albin and SVB play in about 6 or so of the same events every year and have ample chances to chat with each other and match up. Neither guy needs the AZB Match Maker Corps to help aid them in setting something up if they decide they want to play.

Albin can get in touch with SVB a hell of a lot easier then most of the peanut gallery here on AZB.
 
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Don't take any offense at my post. Well, you shouldn't but regardless, since you know Albin so well, you could ask him if he would be interested in a FIGHT NIGHT MATCH on www.poolactiontv.com and you could relay that information to me.

I don't make it a habit of contacting the pro players unless I already know them from past encounters so I wouldn't presume that Albin would be interested in having a conversation with me.

If he would like to contact me, he can reach me on Facebook. I'm a nice guy and just like to see players competing one-on-one.

If you think this is a troll thread you're sadly mistaken. I'm not sure any American player could beat Albin at this stage of his game but it could possibly make for an exciting match and that's what I like, exciting matches.

JoeyA


SmoothStroke said:
I know everyone in the world reads AZB, just not many World Champs or players from other countries.

I will go way out on a limb and hang from a twig.

I will take a guess that after 21,577 posts you are well aware that the majority of participants and posters on AZB are from the U.S.
look at the location from the replies.

Although it's available around the world there are very few who indulge. They could care less to join, forget posting, just a guess you know this.

If Albin is not particularly well known in the U.S. why would you look here for the answer.
Why don't you just ask Albin.
He is easy to contact through facebook or email.

You can have the answer to your question straight from the horse, probably in minutes.
I can get you his phone number if he says it's ok.

Albin is very easy to talk to; you can support and find him a match if he agrees instead of trolling it on here.
Albin is not a new kid on the block. I am sure he needs you to showcase his skills.

I guess the U.S. and the rest of the world didn't watch the Mosconi Cup.
Maybe only the Chinese know they hold pool tourneys.
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Albin doesn't have anything to prove. That's not what this thread is about.

I am just curious if he gambles or not.

Shane nor any other American player hasn't the remotest idea about my interest in seeing Albin gamble one-on-one and I'm not sure he would want to gamble with Albin or not. I enjoy tournaments as much as the next guy but I just enjoy seeing players compete one-on-one in gambling matches.

spartan said:
Albin just won World 9 ball showcasing to the world but he still has to showcase his skills in some gambling match
:)




That only makes Shane look bad and look like sore loser coming so soon after his loss.



True.
Silly really cos these people are only magnifying the loss and making Shane look like sore loser. What Shane wants now is time off and go fishing to forget this ordeal :)
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Celtic,
It's kind of funny that you think promoting one-on-one gambling matches is absurd. Are you one of those anti-gambling guys? :D

I genuinely have no problem with players not gambling, even players here in the U.S.A. But I do know there are some European players who enjoy gambling and it would be fun to see them on FIGHT NIGHT on PoolActionTv.com WITH ANY AMERICAN PLAYER.

JoeyA


Celtic said:
The more absurd thing about Joey's comment there was that he thought Albin would actually need some nobody on AZBilliards to let him know that SVB happens to gamble at pool and would likely accept a match against Albin if he were so inclined.

Albin and SVB play in about 6 or so of the same events every year and have ample chances to chat with each other and match up. Neither guy needs the AZB Match Maker Corps to help aid them in setting something up if they decide they want to play.

Albin can get in touch with SVB a hell of a lot easier then most of the peanut gallery here on AZB.
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Another European player I would like to see on FIGHT NIGHT on www.poolactiontv.com is Karl Boyes. Karl has an awesome game and a match with him playing another American one-on-one would be a big hit imho.

If you don't enjoy gambling matches I can understand that too. But that doesn't mean that some of us don't enjoy the one-on-one matches for cash.

And if a player doesn't gamble, it doesn't mean that he or she isn't as skilled as a player who does gamble. Gambling one-on-one is just another twist in competing that some of us enjoy.


I suppose I like playing in tournaments probably more than gambling because I don't enjoy taking other people's money in one-on-one matches as much as I like beating a half dozen players in the same time period. But that's just me.

This thread isn't meant to suggest that Albin isn't a better player than Shane or any other American player if he doesn't gamble.

This is a billiard forum and people talk about all kinds of things, including gambling one-0n-one matches.

So does Albin gamble or not? Maybe no one really knows and that's okay too.

JoeyA
 
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Albin is the reigning China Open champion. I wonder if Shane is participating in this event late this month... It would be awesome if Shane could win this and OWN the belt that Albin is defending.
...or will Shane just be playing in the US little tables tournament??? :D
 
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A big % of the guys on here that enjoyed and bought PPV action matches feel they were getting screwed by some of the steamers, promoters, and players advertising a large purse that was never going to be played for.

Another reason is there are mostly all league players left on AZB, who could care less for anything pro pool. Johnnyt
 
Hard to believe AZ has changed so much. JoeyA posts a question with the possibility of a great match to watch and somehow that gets turned into he is a Shane nuthugger. So none of you would watch SVB vs Albin fight night match??? I would be first in line.
 
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