Is Max Eberle as big as a goof as I now think?

Nope, I believe I don't know.
If whether it is or not is important to you, you may want to start looking at some of the evidence in favor of roundness. Unfortunately, to understand the evidence requires some math and physics and geometry.

Or, you could just settle for Occam's Razor.
 
If whether it is or not is important to you, you may want to start looking at some of the evidence in favor of roundness. Unfortunately, to understand the evidence requires some math and physics and geometry.

Or, you could just settle for Occam's Razor.

I think we should both refrain from feeding the trolls lol.
 
If whether it is or not is important to you, you may want to start looking at some of the evidence in favor of roundness. Unfortunately, to understand the evidence requires some math and physics and geometry.

Or, you could just settle for Occam's Razor.

Ok I'm game, what evidence do you have?
 
There's a great deal of evidence for an Earth that's roughly 8000 miles in diameter and roughly spherical. I find it convincing.

Do you believe that the Earth is flat?

My driveway if flat. My kitchen table is flat ... whoa ... even my pool table is flat. I just looked up a picture of earth in a book I have and I rubbed my hand across it. It is flat.

I type with two fingers ... and now even my beer is flat. :thumbup:
 
In all seriousness I had to do some serious work to get over the fact that Max Eberle thinks the earth is flat.

I wanted to read his Zen Pool book, but then I learned this and I could honestly not bring myself to listen to a single thing he had to say, on any subject. Flat Eartherism is evidence of a dysfunctional brain.

But... I managed to get over it and remember that just because a person is SEVERELY delusional in one area of their life, doesn't mean they can't be exceptional in something totally unrelated.

Still haven't read Zen Pool though...
 
Should we pull up all those that argue in the other direction?

One should keep in mind that 'we' can not create anything from nothing, which is what the Big Bang indicates.

Also, as I stated 'Math' is man made to help us understand & explain the world, etc.

Argue your way all the way back to the TIME of the Big Bang.

Then what? Please Explain?

You're confusing a couple different ideas here, which most people do, so it's understandable.

The Big Bang does not explain what occurred at T = 0 and in the planck seconds thereafter. The 'instant' of creation, if you will, is actually studied under an umbrella framework known as "Inflation". The Big Bang does not explain "where" or "how" our universe "started", it explains how it proceeded to evolve shortly after the "beginning". Inflationary models explain what "went bang" in the Big Bang, and solved various problems, such as the horizon problem, in early cosmological models.

Second of all, "we can't create anything from nothing" is not necessarily accurate. It seems commonsensical, obviously, but our evolved intuitions did not adapt under selection pressures to intuit quantum mechanical phenomena... So when it comes to the sub-atomic fabric of reality, "common sense" is literally useless. In fact "something" is created from "nothing" all the time - Google "virtual particles".

Importantly, "nothing" is difficult to define, in terms of "what" nothing actually is. "Nothing" is a bubbling brew of virtual particles that pop into, and out of existence constantly. "Nothing" is an inherently unstable state, that according to very well understood principles of Quantum Mechanics, will reliably produce "something".

Also, if you sum the energy contained in our universe, it equals exactly ZERO. (Hint: gravitational energy is "negative" energy.) So from a certain accounting POV, nothing came from nothing. :)
 
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Ok I'm game, what evidence do you have?
I used to work on a project that used satellites. They really did appear in the right places in the sky at the right times to be going in circular orbits around the Earth.

The Sun (and there seems to be only one) is at its highest in California when it is the middle of the night in Iraq.
 
I've never asked Max about his beliefs, nor do I care. However, it is my belief that Max is more of an artist than anything else and it is his in his DNA to create or to see things that others cannot or will not see.

You will never see Max denigrating others or stalking others but you will see him making attempts to share his unique point of view with hopes of getting others to open their minds to look at those things to decide for themselves instead of accepting what has been taught. That is what art is to me...... just sayin.

To relate your story of Buzz Aldrin being stalked with Max is just not fair.

(BTW, JoeyA believes the earth is shaped like a cue ball, just a little larger; and I doubt Max will hold that against me..)

It takes all kinds of people to make the world go round. :D

What I have seen of Max in the pool world agrees with what you say.

But Buzz Aldrin had a stalker....the guy would follow him to events and call him a liar.
a fraud, and a coward....finally, Buzz, in his late 70s, threw a shot at him.

So I asked this question much earlier in this thread....
..."What would Max say to Buzz if they met?"

Pretty tough to be a nice guy....and call a whole bunch of very brave men frauds.
....I'm calling Max a good pool player....and a kook in his spare time.
 
I've never asked Max about his beliefs, nor do I care. However, it is my belief that Max is more of an artist than anything else and it is his in his DNA to create or to see things that others cannot or will not see.

You will never see Max denigrating others or stalking others but you will see him making attempts to share his unique point of view with hopes of getting others to open their minds to look at those things to decide for themselves instead of accepting what has been taught. That is what art is to me...... just sayin.
It takes all kinds of people to make the world go round. :D

I love art. I am married to an artist. However, it is wise to remember that having any credentials in the art world does not make said artist qualified to, say, design and build an airplane, automobile, building, etc. etc. Thank god for engineers for keeping us alive. And yes, the earth is a damn sphere for crissakes! That is about as polite as one can get with his "unique" world view.
 
I've never asked Max about his beliefs, nor do I care. However, it is my belief that Max is more of an artist than anything else and it is his in his DNA to create or to see things that others cannot or will not see.

You will never see Max denigrating others or stalking others but you will see him making attempts to share his unique point of view with hopes of getting others to open their minds to look at those things to decide for themselves instead of accepting what has been taught. That is what art is to me...... just sayin.

To relate your story of Buzz Aldrin being stalked with Max is just not fair.

(BTW, JoeyA believes the earth is shaped like a cue ball, just a little larger; and I doubt Max will hold that against me..)

It takes all kinds of people to make the world go round. :D

I don't think i'm treating Max unfairly, Joey.
Next time you see him...ask him what he would say if he met Buzz Aldrin...
...I'm quite interested.
Max might not be as rude as the stalker....but he's in his camp.
 
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