rubber insert for wood pin cue?

[PhilosopherKing]

i have a cue with a wood pin, and i'm having an issue with stripping/wood debris when taking the cue apart and putting it together.

the issue got me thinking about a rubber shaft insert.

first of all, would it be possible and serve any practical function?

second, how would inserts of varying hardness hold-up and possibly affect how the cue feels and plays.

i know it's a wacky thought. thanks for humoring me.

 

[Kim Bye]

i have a starkey cue with his wood pin, and i'm having an issue with stripping/wood debris when taking the cue apart and putting it together.

the issue got me thinking about a rubber shaft insert.

first of all, would it be possible and serve any practical function?

second, how would inserts of varying hardness hold-up and possibly affect how the cue feels and plays.

i know it's a wacky thought. thanks for humoring me.

How about some wax on those threads for a start?

 

[PhilosopherKing]

How about some wax on those threads for a start?

Thank you.

Any thoughts on the rubber?

 

[JoeyInCali]

The whole point of that joinery is it's wood on wood.

 

[PhilosopherKing]

The whole point of that joinery is it's wood on wood.

I know. That's why I bought it. The idea is a general one; I'm not looking to tinker with my cue. The "compression," to borrow a term from the Tasc/Bushka thread in the main, has me curious about the connection.

Thanks.

 

[Chopdoc]

Talk to the maker first imho.

 

[PhilosopherKing]

Talk to the maker first imho.

i get what you're saying, and edited my post, but i wasn't complaining or looking for a repair. it was just the background about what got me thinking about the possibility of a wood pin into rubber inserts of varying hardness.

 

[Kim Bye]

i get what you're saying, and edited my post, but i wasn't complaining or looking for a repair. it was just the background about what got me thinking about the possibility of a wood pin into rubber inserts of varying hardness.

I'm no expert, but have you ever tried to cut a hole, or any shape in rubber? The only way to make those threads in rubber is having it molded.
That aside, rubber would deaden the connection between the shaft and butt to a point where you really would not know when you struck the CB.
if you want a phenolic or nylon insert made, that's doable, but as Joey said: the whole point is wood to wood contact.
Just use some carnauba/beeswax on those threads and you should be fine.
If you have splinters or chips in the threads, you could take your cue to a competent repair person and have him or her clean up the threads.

 

[desi2960]

starkey

I would send it back to me, tell me your problem- concerns and let me solve the problems.
I tried a few different materials for threads in the shaft and found wood to be what I like best.

 

[Chopdoc]

i get what you're saying, and edited my post, but i wasn't complaining or looking for a repair. it was just the background about what got me thinking about the possibility of a wood pin into rubber inserts of varying hardness.

Didn't mean to imply you were complaining. I just figure he has a lot of experience with his own joint and might offer insight.


Nothing wrong with asking around. And the cue makers in general is a great place to start. :smile:



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[galipeau]

Longoni has made some with phenolic female thread inserts. I don't think rubber would work. It likely has too high of a friction coefficient against wood.

 

[KJ Cues]

Since you're just looking for opinions of your idea, I think it could use a little more thought.
Rubber is resilient and very compressible. This will very likely compromise the hit of the cue.
Send it back to Mr.Starkey and let him address the issue. He built the cue. He knows it better than anyone else.
Some of what you paid for the cue is his continued support and knowledge down the road.

 

[conetip]

There is nothing wrong with wood to wood threads in cues. Snooker cues have been doing that for a very long time. The main issue I see with wood threaded cues is that most people do not keep the male thread clean of chalk and any other abrasive. Cleanliness is very important with the wood pins. If it is having wood debris coming out of it, I would send it back to the maker and get them to repair it for you.
Rubber anything is going to deaden a cues feel. If you are sensitive to a cues feel, remove the rubber bumper if it has one and you will see what I am talking about.
Neil