Name a billiard game where an amateur has a chance against a pro

The first poolhall I worked in about 8 years ago before it closed down had a solid group of 6-10 guys that would come regularly and we would play the same game the op described we called it "dead pool" and u can play 1$-2$5$10$ or higher per ball n I didn't go thru ur rules but the most u can lose it two balls but u can win like double the amount of players essentially of u break n run out of happen to make every ones ball j ur ball in the same inning. It was so much fun playing dead pool late nights would go on for hours and we would sometimes play sharking allowed so people would go nuts lol and every single ball u would act like was ur money ball to psych people out or fake them out it truly was fun.

While there's a to. Of luck at the time everyone was from a high D low C to medium B speed in the group of 10 but eventually outsiders would happen to come by and play n eventually get banned from being run out players. Also we played on occasion like no warmup strokes just to keep it light fun n fast and aside from nit picking rules n different variations it can be a great game to get everyone involved and as long as u keep the bet low it stays fun.

To answer the question I tried to then got sidetracked but even with all the luck and randomness if there's 5 low level players and one A player he's going to clean up eventually if the game goes a good while and eventually as a low C player watching a guy run racks of rotation is about the worst feeling and u start campaigning to bam the guy from the game

No warm up strokes? So, a player had to get down on the shot, aim, and then not pull back more then 1 stroke before shooting? Sounds like a nightmare. That would have me messed up really bad.
 
Agreed. 3 ball is the truest gambling game there is in pool. It the balls are racked properly in three ball, it is a genuine gamble because you have no idea if a ball is going to fall on the break. You can have a measure of control to make sure nothing ends up frozen on a rail, but it completely evens out the field.

Coincidentally, three ball is the only game I don't play on a regular basis because I'm not much for gambling.

I think it would need to be 3 ball on a valley bar table, to be even, because many players can't even run out 3 balls, and on a 9 foot table, it can be even more difficult (depending on the lay out of the 3 balls). By the way, I have seen players get hooked many times after making a ball on the break. By hooked, I mean left with a really hard shot (like a bank that is not easy, or a long cut shot that takes some skill to make). It is pure gambling though (that is true), no matter who you are playing. I hate the game.
 
This is kind of the way we played but on the opening shot you could shoot the 1, 8, or 15. If you played the 1 first you shot the 2 next. If you shot the 8 you could play either the 7 or 9 and if you played the 15 you would shoot the 14 next. Just had to follow the order of the way the balls that were played.

That is a very interesting way of playing. It certainly gives you more options. I forgot to add that we would play general ring game rules (no ball in hand, and if you make a fould, then the cue ball stays where it is, and the next player in line has the option to let you shoot again). It was a really fun game. I have not seen it played in ages though.
 
Simple as pie...play mum pool. First player to say even one word loses. The better the player, the more difficult it is to not say anything...even "good shot". :grin:

Scott Lee
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Can you name/describe a billiard game where a C Player has a decent chance against an A Player? It doesn't necessarily need to be a 50/50 chance, but maybe a game where everyone can have fun and maybe wager without it being overwhelmingly in the favor of the better player.
 
Yeah, but even in a race to 1, I think that the A player would have the advantage over the C player (for example).

True the better player will always have an edge on paper but C players tend to put the "C" in lucky...that should speak for itself when talking about 9-ball...I'm no pro but I have been robbed in races to one playing 8-ball by people that can't run 3 balls...in my opinion the lesser player tends to unintentionally and unpredictably create problems on the table that the better player has to deal with...race to one is a pretty good equalizer...On top of that there are plenty of amateur players out there that can run racks...if I break and run in a race to one it doesn't matter who I'm playing...
 
3 ball........a good amateur player could compete with anyone playing 3 ball.......and it's also a fun, quick way to gamble when you play with 4-5 guys
(one wins, all win) that can lead to sizable pots even playing $.50 cents or a $1.00 per game. Bigger tables and smaller pockets make 3 ball a lot of fun..
 
Fast 8, alternate breaks on a bar box.
The Pro probably still wins, but I think the Am has a pretty good shot at winning
 
There are NO games played with a cue that the better player doesnt have a huge advantage - doesn't matter how long the race is, the better player still has the same advantage.

Just because the weaker player could win a single game, doesnt mean he isn't still a huge underdog to do it.
Jason
 
3 ball is still a bad example - the A player still has a huge advantage.

I'm in baltimore and I'll come play EVERY C player in the area 3 ball.

All you C players can win some cash, here's your chance. Come get some!!!
Jason
 
Honolulu hands down would be one game. It would still be tough but definitely a type of game that is a neutralizer.

Nobody here must play this game...very surprised nobody has agreed with this. Good luck pros included breaking and running the table in this game.
 
No warm up strokes? So, a player had to get down on the shot, aim, and then not pull back more then 1 stroke before shooting? Sounds like a nightmare. That would have me messed up really bad.

Used to get in stroke by doing just that(still do sometimes), this way you can tell if you are "falling" on the shot correctly. The most important part of the shot is alignment BEFORE getting down on the shot.

Give it a try, it works
Jason<-------gotta stop giving up this info
 
3 ball is still a bad example - the A player still has a huge advantage.

I'm in baltimore and I'll come play EVERY C player in the area 3 ball.

All you C players can win some cash, here's your chance. Come get some!!!
Jason


One on one I definitely agree but you get more then 4 players of different abilities playing one tie all tie I have had c players win large pots on crazy luck( bar table, league cut pockets)Could not be more fun.
 
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One on one I definitely agree but you get more then 4 players of different abilities playing one tie all tie I have had c players win large pots on crazy luck( bar table, league cut pockets)Could not be more fun.

But we are talking about C players here not different abilities. And yes, the more players the better the chance of 1 of them winning any given game just by the nature of the game and the odds.

Lets say I'm 80% vs a C player(20%). What do my odds go to with 2 C players or 3, or 4?
At some point, with enough players, I'm no longer the favorite. But playing them individually I still win 80% of the games.
Jason
 
Scott was right. Mum pool is the best evener. Here are some more complete rules:

It's a game for 4 or more players. Draw for order. Chalk your cue. Rack up 15 balls in any order. The person who breaks first says "Mum!" and from then on the rules are:

Players shoot in order. Each takes only one shot on his turn.

If you do any of the following, you are out of that game:

Speak.
Shoot out of turn.
Take more than one shot on your turn.
Commit any usual foul, such as no cushion contact.
Rest your cue stick on the floor.
Chalk.
Pocket the last ball on the table.

The last person in the game is the winner.
 
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