Stevie Moore parallel shots CTE video

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Dan White said:
Tony - very good summary exhibiting good common sense. Regarding the above, if a CTE user took practice strokes along one line, but at the last second delivered the cue along a different line, would you consider that a subconscious adjustment?
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It's not part of the CTE system. Whoever is doing that is doing it and calling it CTE is wrong. However, I think I've seen what you're talking about. I've seen a couple 90/90ers stroking on one line and on the last stroke coming through the ball. A lot of pivot systems share a common ancestry from Hal.

I don't think it's subconcious and here's why. So they set up on their 90/90 line, then there's a point where the step is to pivot to center. You're supposed to do it as a separate step.

You line up and land on that offset line. Then when you're ready you look at center CB from your vantage point and you're supposed to turn your cue into what you perceive is center ball.

It's about as subconscious as you making sure your cue is at centerball.

Some people try and do it quickly so people won't think they're a "noob" for making such a drastic change when down on the shot. But if you slow it down, it's a simple movement to turn the cue to face centerball. Freeze, then shoot.

Again, I'm pretty sure what you're describing is 90/90 variant.
 
jasonlaus said:
Cookie, I payed on a 10'er at home (havre de grace) till i moved to Fells Point around may/june. Havent played much since then. Table is in storage.

Stopped @ new Green Room to have a tip put on - that's where I gambled with the guy.
Jason
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Green Room used to be my home room when i lived there. Charlie at the pro shop is the best. You remember the guys name. Probably doesnt matter, havent been there in five years.
 
mohrt said:
I don't know what you mean, I've responded to all your posts. Did I miss something? I answer pretty much the same things the same answers over the last few years.
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From post #191, maybe you missed it because it was two or three questions:

Answer this: IF you use CTE and it works well for you, and IF you don't understand FOR A FACT how it works, then how can you rule out any alternative possibilities as to how it works?

Thanks.
 
Dan White said:
Tony - very good summary exhibiting good common sense. Regarding the above, if a CTE user took practice strokes along one line, but at the last second delivered the cue along a different line, would you consider that a subconscious adjustment?
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I'm sorry, I didn't really answer your exact question. See this CTE war has gotten me defensive.

Let's get rid of the CTE part.

If a person took practice strokes along one line, but at the last second delivered the cue along a different line, I think a case could be made for subconscious adjustments. It really depends on what their eyes are trying to accomplish. Are they simply trying to stroke straight through what they perceive as center ball?


Or are they unknowingly trying thicken or thin the shot. If it's the second one, I'd say it's subconscious.

The first one's pretty easy to prove, just divide it into two steps and observe the turn into center ball. If they stroke straight along that line and don't make the ball, I would think subconscious adjustments are at play.
 
jasonlaus said:
Psycho much?
Jaso
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Psycho for what? Giving my answer about not voting for Hillary after you assumed I was a Democrat with this statement?

[/YOU: you keep on with the names and twisting(Democrat?).
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Psycho for telling you I didn't want any more CONTACT with you here on the forum or would never want to meet you in real life, yet you don't get the message and keep posting and posting and posting stupid inane one liners that are senseless.

I told you that you must not be able to handle rejection or maybe you have a man crush on me but here you go again posting and posting and posting.

GET OVER YOURSELF!! DO NOT POST TO ME EVER AGAIN!

You're already the proven psycho and will continue be as long as you post.

Will it require a restraining order? I pity the poor partner of yours (whether man or woman) who rejects you and says to "stay the hell out of my life and just leave".
You won't quit. They'll have to file something in court.
 
ps611846 said:
Yes it does. We are not talking about something like a masse shot. It's not so obvious. He knows how to hit the cue ball from the left or the right side in order to "slap" the object ball from the right or the left side. He never hits the balls in the face or in straight lines. And it is not the same hit for every stroke speed. This method is very "speed sensitive".

It's hard to believe it, I know.

It's just a way of playing the game. And pool can be played in many ways.
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I had the opportunity to play Bustamante at the DCC in the 1pocket division a few years back. I did not observe this though I had a *real good view* and was trying to study his technique throughout the match.

Lou Figueroa
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Psycho for what? Giving my answer about not voting for Hillary after you assumed I was a Democrat with this statement?

[/YOU: you keep on with the names and twisting(Democrat?).
COLOR]

Psycho for telling you I didn't want any more CONTACT with you here on the forum or would never want to meet you in real life, yet you don't get the message and keep posting and posting and posting stupid inane one liners that are senseless.

I told you that you must not be able to handle rejection or maybe you have a man crush on me but here you go again posting and posting and posting.

GET OVER YOURSELF!! DO NOT POST TO ME EVER AGAIN!

You're already the proven psycho and will continue be as long as you post.

Will it require a restraining order? I pity the poor partner of yours (whether man or woman) who rejects you and says to "stay the hell out of my life and just leave".
You won't quit. They'll have to file something in court.
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To be fair. Quite a few Democrats did not vote for Hillary. They said they could not vote for either candidate, so they abstained.

I did not vote for Trump. Does that make me a Democrat?
 
Dan White said:
From post #191, maybe you missed it because it was two or three questions:

Answer this: IF you use CTE and it works well for you, and IF you don't understand FOR A FACT how it works, then how can you rule out any alternative possibilities as to how it works?

Thanks.
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As long as we critique the proper issue I don't care. I really do believe that there are no subconscious adjustments during the execution phase. Using CTE, you try and pivot by the exact same amount each time, what you're body has to do to accomplish that is questionable now that I think about it, but I think it's about as objective as a human body can be (which again, isn't very objective).

But we need to maybe let that part go, pivot is by the same amount as humanely possible every time.

The REAL burning question, is how you can line up say Edge to A, on similarly angled shots and already can tell you're offset by different amounts.

Even having two balls lined up with each other for a 15 degree cut, and shifting them both an inch to the left. Logic would dictate that if you were to line it up again, you'd be offset by the same amount and would now miss the ball.

But you're offset will actually change by the appropriate amount to make the ball.

It's phenomena, and I can understand why a lot of ppl become fanatics about it, cause it is wicked cool to experience. I like to call it magic, cause it's kinda what it is. Or a glitch in the matrix.

But if we could get an explanation about why this phenomena happens that doesn't refer to cosmic powers and cloak and dagger B.S I would also love to hear it.

But for the time being, my position is that it's magic, and it's cool and I like it.
 
Dan White said:
Look at all of these links. If it isn't CTE, then what is this guy doing to pocket balls?

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5731731&postcount=46
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I watched the video that analyzes stan's stroke. Don't you think that's a bit unfair? The man provides video's of himself taking 100s of shots. Selecting and analyzing one shot where his cue goes offline could easily be disproved by someone analyzing one of stan's shots where his cue does stay online.

One example is not enough. I'd think it'd be just as easy to prove the other side.
 
tonythetiger583 said:
What is love? Baby don't hurt me:p

Geez Spidey's a little touchy.
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Touchy? LMAO Tony, you're new to the CTE game and locusts/buzzards flying around to destroy Stan and the system without enough or any knowledge at all.
You're also doing a good job with patience in explaining it.

I've been at it too long originally with Hal Houle and now Stan. I've completely lost my patience and so sick of it.

Lou Figuroa has been bad mouthing CTE and both Hal and Stan for 20 years. Dan White has been around for the same length of time but I'm not sure if he did it with Hal back on RSB. But he certainly is doing it here with Stan and one of the primary locusts along with Lou.

I will say Dan has at least tried to learn it but was never able to get over the hurdle so his argument is that CTE is the failure or Stan is the failure. He knows just enough to be a danger and is fairly close yet still isn't going to get there with his mindset and inability or unwillingness to listen to what you, Stan and many others are trying to tell him. He wants to continue down the negative bashing path.

Lou on the other hand knows NOTHING about it. NOTHING! But is the primary head hunter for CTE and Stan.

In comes Jasonlaus. Probably the most illiterate person I've seen on the forums in my 10 years or more. He knows even less than Lou which is saying a lot. He doesn't even know that CP to CP which he uses is an Aiming System older than any other. He denies it's a system even when proven to him.

You can only handle so many illiterates over a decade to where it becomes downright disgusting. I'll give him the credit that he may in fact be a very good player, (maybe that's rated too high but OK) but this guy comes in to do only one thing which is troll and be an immature nuisance.

Your turn. See if HE would like to learn CTE or any part of it from YOU. Let's see his response and how far that goes before you say, "SCREW THIS". You will. If not with him it will happen with some screwball down the line.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Psycho for what? Giving my answer about not voting for Hillary after you assumed I was a Democrat with this statement?

[/YOU: you keep on with the names and twisting(Democrat?).
COLOR]

Psycho for telling you I didn't want any more CONTACT with you here on the forum or would never want to meet you in real life, yet you don't get the message and keep posting and posting and posting stupid inane one liners that are senseless.

I told you that you must not be able to handle rejection or maybe you have a man crush on me but here you go again posting and posting and posting.

GET OVER YOURSELF!! DO NOT POST TO ME EVER AGAIN!

You're already the proven psycho and will continue be as long as you post.

Will it require a restraining order? I pity the poor partner of yours (whether man or woman) who rejects you and says to "stay the hell out of my life and just leave".
You won't quit. They'll have to file something in court.
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This is why you are psycho^^^^^^^
Jason

Btw, Quit talking to me, you need serious help.
Jason
 
nine_ball6970 said:
To be fair. Quite a few Democrats did not vote for Hillary. They said they could not vote for either candidate, so they abstained.

I did not vote for Trump. Does that make me a Democrat?
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I could care less what you are and who or why you didn't vote for one or the other or nobody.

I spoke for myself after Jasonlaus was intimating I was a Democrat with his wild guess. Just for the record to clear it up, I'm a 100% dyed in the wool Republican and proud of it. Also proud and happy that the Republicans are in control of both houses as well as the White House. I couldn't wait to place my vote for Trump.

Lets not turn this into NPR.
 
Its simple, just post videos from behind the shooter showing the exact same visuals and bath balls a diamond apart going in the same hole.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I could care less what you are and who or why you didn't vote for one or the other or nobody.

I spoke for myself after Jasonlaus was intimating I was a Democrat with his wild guess. Just for the record to clear it up, I'm a 100% dyed in the wool Republican and proud of it. Also proud and happy that the Republicans are in control of both houses as well as the White House. I couldn't wait to place my vote for Trump.

Lets not turn this into NPR.
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Well then:thumbup:
 
jasonlaus said:
Btw, Quit talking to me, you need serious help.
Jason
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I have to agree with you about needing help to keep responding to you who REALLY needs help.

So is this an official mutual agreement? We BOTH stop right here and NEVER post to each other? I'M IN! I'M IN!
 
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