Pattern Racking 9-Ball With Soft Breaking Video

Maybe you should use the old school cue ball as well. You know the heavy one that is difficult to draw.
 
And what do you do when the breaker racks a ball dead? What if that ball is the nine ball? There are players who know how to do both of those from a nine ball rack.

I think the rack is the problem, not the players racking skills. From what I know the tightest rack possible in nine ball gives the greatest chance to make the corner ball a "dead ball". Problem is with the game not the player.

I do see your point when it comes to the nine ball as there are ways to make it come out more often, certainly can't make it "dead" though.

My general thought on this is there is WAY too much whining in pool. When a guys is breaking and playing good, the opponent needs to sit down and shut up. Period.

There is this weird entitlement in pool where people think they are somehow owed innings at the table. Get it through your head people you aren't owed crap.

I think nine and ten ball rules changes need to focus on this... the seated player doing just that and being relegated to his seat with game penalties permitted for deviating. I like rack your own, I like nine does not count on the break personally, and again seated player needs to get the hell out of the game. Players getting involved when it's not their shot is the single biggest problem in pool in my opinion.
 
First off, if the opponent was doing the complaining, I'd tell the player....GUESS YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO RACK LIKE YOUR OPPONENT! Second, in my rules a 9 on the break counts as a win, but spots back up and is still in play. If the breaker fails to run the rack out and lets the opponent finish out the rack, then making the 9 last also counts as a win, which then would be considered to be a push for push for both players. Third, in my tournaments, all 9ft pool tables would have Championship Titan, non worsted wool cloth installed on them....as in no Simonis, Championship Tour Edition, no Andy cloth, no Granito....back to old school cloth....and I don't mean no IPT' shaggy carpet shit either.

So...

Using a template to provide the exact same rack for each player = BAD

Playing rack your own with a wooden rack, and having the racker manipulate the rack to his or her advantage = ABSOLUTELY FINE


Well I'm glad we can confirm (once again) that your ideas are absolutely atrocious. Thanks for the chuckle.
 
So...

Using a template to provide the exact same rack for each player = BAD

Playing rack your own with a wooden rack, and having the racker manipulate the rack to his or her advantage = ABSOLUTELY FINE


Well I'm glad we can confirm (once again) that your ideas are absolutely atrocious. Thanks for the chuckle.

Your damn right, take the break SHOT out of the break by replacing it with human error, or knowledge in how to rack the balls using a wooden or plastic rack....and the game loses most probability of being won ON THE BREAK....something wrong with that? Don't like that, then a neutral person racks the balls for both PLAYERS, don't like that....tuff shit!!!
 
I'm for the neutral racker. Don't understand why this is almost never seen. I've only played in one tourney that had this.

Because some players complained to much about the person racking the balls causing the racking to take to long, so then rack your own came in to play. Then everyone started complaining about rack your own cheating, so in come the racking aids. Then the racking aids racking the perfect rack showed the flaw of a perfect rack....Cory Duel exposed it first. When then caused the need to start racking the 9 on the spot, which still didn't break the perfect rack....so then came the rules that X number of balls had to go past the side pockets to be a legal shot....then let's not.forget about the break box....everyone had to break from the same place.....BECAUSE TO MANY PLAYERS WERE STILL RUNNING OUT FROM THE BREAK!!!! No one EVER complained about the wing ball going in every break leaving the rack just begging to be ran out....when there was NO RACKING AIDS BEING USED!!!
 
:) How do you feel about tapped racks on tables? In particular, is this a terrible idea for 14.1?

Tapping the balls to keep them tight in place, only last so long. The more the balls are racked and broke, the less the ability to tap them in place.
 
Thanks. Not a lot of info on here on it other than the typical violent opposition and I've never seen it myself.

Back when I was playing all the time, before Simonis cloth was even heard of in the Pacific Northwest, we played on Steven's 22oz Super weave woven cloth. We'd always use a tightly wrung out rag to scrub and clean the rack area to kind of disturb the ball dents in the cloth so that we kind of erased the pattern of the balls in the cloth. When we racked up the rack on the cleaned cloth, we'd always tap the balls so they'd stay in place after we removed the rack.
 
I uploaded this RKC-Ghost on YouTube. Camera had focus problems early match. Still should be watchable because Tv-set colours.
Match contains couple hero runs, some bad language and me making some comments about my breaking and playing. I also added some backround music just for fun.

Link; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KkMb8ALa8k4

P.s seems i made foul at counting. I ended game too early. 5-9 :(

Pps. First shot of match is cool kick!
 
Your damn right, take the break SHOT out of the break by replacing it with human error, or knowledge in how to rack the balls using a wooden or plastic rack....and the game loses most probability of being won ON THE BREAK....something wrong with that? Don't like that, then a neutral person racks the balls for both PLAYERS, don't like that....tuff shit!!!

So knowledge, i.e. cheating is fine in your book?

Got it!

If Player A is rigging their racks (which again, is perfectly fine in your book). Then their probability of winning on the break is much higher.
 
So knowledge, i.e. cheating is fine in your book?

Got it!

If Player A is rigging their racks (which again, is perfectly fine in your book). Then their probability of winning on the break is much higher.

First of all, you assume one of the players is a cheater. Second, rack cheating as you want to call it, has no chance in hell of creating the same ball making ability on the break that racing aids do. Third, eif cheating at racking the balls is the norm, then I guess the OTHER player better learn how to fight fire with fire and beat the other opponent at the same game of racking, which is still better than using racking aids.

PS, I'm against the use of jump cues as well, I personally feel they should be banned!
 
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First of all, you assume one of the players is a cheater. Second, rack cheating as you want to call it, has no chance in hell of creating the same ball making ability on the break that racing aids do. Third, eif cheating at racking the balls is the norm, then I guess the OTHER player better learn how to fight fire with fire and beat the other opponent at the same game of racking, which is still better than using racking aids.

PS, I'm against the use of jump cues as well, I personally feel they should be banned!

I don't need to assume anything. If a player is rigging the rack, then they ARE cheating. You may want to look up the actual rules before you reply.
 
I don't need to assume anything. If a player is rigging the rack, then they ARE cheating. You may want to look up the actual rules before you reply.

And I don't give a shit about the argument you want to hold on to, racking aids are the biggest form of cheating there is when it comes to racking the balls!
 
I believe magic racks/accu racks puts everyone on the same playing field and it is up to each individual to master their break. When the rack is perfect every time then you can't manipulate the rack with gaps between certain balls.
 
And I don't give a shit about the argument you want to hold on to, racking aids are the biggest form of cheating there is when it comes to racking the balls!

Giving everyone the same rack...bad

Allowing people to rig the rack...good


Well at least you are honest about your complete and utter lack of integrity.
 
I believe magic racks/accu racks puts everyone on the same playing field and it is up to each individual to master their break. When the rack is perfect every time then you can't manipulate the rack with gaps between certain balls.

But then the winner would be the person that plays the best, and golly gee how horrible would that be.
 
That kick shot at the start was worth the price of admission.

Great Shot!

I uploaded this RKC-Ghost on YouTube. Camera had focus problems early match. Still should be watchable because Tv-set colours.
Match contains couple hero runs, some bad language and me making some comments about my breaking and playing. I also added some backround music just for fun.

Link; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KkMb8ALa8k4

P.s seems i made foul at counting. I ended game too early. 5-9 :(

Pps. First shot of match is cool kick!
 
But then the winner would be the person that plays the best, and golly gee how horrible would that be.

I don't care if you guys agree or not, racking aids sole purpose is to allow a player with less skills breaking the balls to have a much more powerful break that they would never have without the use of a rack AID. I already said for complaints about a player racking their own, a neutral racker could be called on to take over racking for both players, as long as human error was still present when racking the balls. Racks should be outlined as it is so that the rack stays inside the outline of the rack no matter who's racking the balls.
 
But then the winner would be the person that plays the best, and golly gee how horrible would that be.

Exactly my point.Van Boening has one of the best breaks in the world because he puts the time into perfecting it, 2 hours every day except Thursdays is 5 hours. I'm sure it is with and without a magic/accu rack.
 
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