Tips firming up

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I put a Kamui black soft tip on my cue. I don't like hard tips, more for the sound they
make than anything else. Anyway, after hitting some balls and reshaping, I liked
the way it felt, played and the sound. But after a couple weeks it has gotten hard
and glazes over and does not feel anywhere like it did at first. I realize that it will
compact and firm up but this seems excessive. Are the soft ones just the hard ones
that haven't been pressed. If that's the case then I.m sol. I always used Lepro tips
before and if you got a good one it seemed to stay pretty much the same for the
life of the tip.Elk Master or Milk Duds seem to stay fairly soft. So I guess what I'm
asking is there any way to soften it. I can scuff it or whatever but after a short time
it's back hard again. I thought about the SS but if it's going to do the same thing
only take a little longer no need to do that. Is there another soft tip that stays that
way for most of the life of the tip. thanks
jack
 
I had a Black Super Soft on my Predator FAT 314-2 shaft and didn't like it until I cut half of it off. It played okay then, until it wore down low. It then got hard and the miscuing began. I replaced it with a Black Medium a couple months ago and it is way too hard for me.

I played with a Jim Lee cue the last couple weeks and it has regular maple shafts and G2 tips. They seemed to play really good, so I bought a G2 Soft tip this week and will use it to replace the Black Medium on my Predator.
 
Boy I like this thread! I have always believed that tips get somewhat harder after they are played. When I feel a tip is not what it used to be it is OFF WITH HIS HEAD! Time for a new tip. Regardless of size cost or anything else. I also have zero issues with soft tips that mushroom, I expect them too and reshape them as necessary. Just a pool player here not a cue maker, so I probably crossed the line, but that is my opinion and I am sticking to it!
 
Precision tips!!! I love my kamui black clear soft tips. Have used them fpr the last 18 months or so. They do glaze over and need attention often. I don't mind prepping my gear so I have no issues there. I then tried Precision tips in a medium and a soft. Love them. No glazing over either. Give it a shot u may love them too. Good luck!

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I like hard tips so mine start that way. I always thought it was kind of amusing that most players like something soft or softer than hards as within a short period of time all tips are hards. JMO/YMMV
 
How is the Kamui clear soft different from the regular black soft, other than the base.
Does it stay soft longer or just have a base. Trimming and reshaping is no problem.
I just want it to not get hard in such a short period of time. I also like the tip sort of thick.
The sound is a big big deal to me I hate the sound of a hard tip. I might try the SS
maybe after it firms up it will not be quite as hard, anyone know ?
thanks jack
 
jackpot said:
I put a Kamui black soft tip on my cue. I don't like hard tips, more for the sound they
make than anything else. Anyway, after hitting some balls and reshaping, I liked
the way it felt, played and the sound. But after a couple weeks it has gotten hard
and glazes over and does not feel anywhere like it did at first. I realize that it will
compact and firm up but this seems excessive. Are the soft ones just the hard ones
that haven't been pressed. If that's the case then I.m sol. I always used Lepro tips
before and if you got a good one it seemed to stay pretty much the same for the
life of the tip.Elk Master or Milk Duds seem to stay fairly soft. So I guess what I'm
asking is there any way to soften it. I can scuff it or whatever but after a short time
it's back hard again. I thought about the SS but if it's going to do the same thing
only take a little longer no need to do that. Is there another soft tip that stays that
way for most of the life of the tip. thanks
jack
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It's just the way the cookie crumbles.
A soft tip will harden gradually over time, some tips hold their soft feel longer than others, Kamui Black tips are in my opinion tips that harden fairly fast, I have had better luck with Zan and G2.
But if consistency is what you are looking for I recomend a medium tip, it may take a while to get used to, but when you do used to the feel, you will experience less variation in the way the tip feels.
 
jackpot said:
How is the Kamui clear soft different from the regular black soft, other than the base.
Does it stay soft longer or just have a base. Trimming and reshaping is no problem.
I just want it to not get hard in such a short period of time. I also like the tip sort of thick.
The sound is a big big deal to me I hate the sound of a hard tip. I might try the SS
maybe after it firms up it will not be quite as hard, anyone know ?
thanks jack
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Hi Jack,
There is no difference between the leather layers on the clear and the regular Kamui tips. The clear tips have 3 extra layers, two very thin black layers top and bottom, and the clear pad. The top one cuts off after installation.
All leather tips will harden up over time, this is why a lot of people "press" the tips before installing them. It makes them feel hardened up when they're still newly installed, and maintain a more consistent feel. I play with Kamui clear SS, they are a little soft when first installed, but firm up and play pretty consistent after that. They do get pretty firm when they are worn down to just a few layers left. I chalk pretty vigorously and consistently, with abrasive chalk, so no glazing issues.
 
jackpot said:
How is the Kamui clear soft different from the regular black soft, other than the base.
Does it stay soft longer or just have a base. Trimming and reshaping is no problem.
I just want it to not get hard in such a short period of time. I also like the tip sort of thick.
The sound is a big big deal to me I hate the sound of a hard tip. I might try the SS
maybe after it firms up it will not be quite as hard, anyone know ?
thanks jack
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I think you and I like the same sort of tip. I like them on the thicker side and I don't want to hear that "pinging" sound a hard tip makes.
 
HawaiianEye said:
I think you and I like the same sort of tip. I like them on the thicker side and I don't want to hear that "pinging" sound a hard tip makes.
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Perfect example of personal preference. I actually prefer the feel of a short, hard tip, and the sound actually helps my stroke. A good clean stroke that's in the sweet spot will ping, where a sloppy stroke hitting too far from center will click. Different strokes for different folks, so they say.
 
HawaiianEye said:
I had a Black Super Soft on my Predator FAT 314-2 shaft and didn't like it until I cut half of it off. It played okay then, until it wore down low. It then got hard and the miscuing began. I replaced it with a Black Medium a couple months ago and it is way too hard for me.

I played with a Jim Lee cue the last couple weeks and it has regular maple shafts and G2 tips. They seemed to play really good, so I bought a G2 Soft tip this week and will use it to replace the Black Medium on my Predator.
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I got good news and bad news.

I got my Predator shaft back today with the new G2 Soft tip and it played a thousand times better than the Kamui Black Medium. That is the good news.

The bad news is that it popped off when I did a long table-length power draw. The tip popped off clean and the tip still looked brand new and the ferrule was still perfect. Don't know what kind of glue he used, but I sent it back to him to get put back on.

There is WAY more feel with this tip. It seems like you can feel it while it is still in contact with the ball. Lots of action, too.
 
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