But what about one pocket and bank pool? And where are all the 10fts you're referring to?
Professional pool played on 7 footers... I don't get it
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But what about one pocket and bank pool? And where are all the 10fts you're referring to?
During the 8-ball tournament that just ended last night, it was mentioned during the commentary that a couple of the player's favorite game is bar table 8-ball. I think they mentioned Corey D, and I know that Shane really likes it.
Does anyone really think that the reason that they like this game is because it's so easy? I don't. While shot-making is much easier, I think that the challenge of getting out on a really tough, congested table is why they like it.
The players that excel in planning their run-outs in great detail and being able to execute their plans are the ones that will enjoy this game the most.
Does anyone really think that the reason that they like this game is because it's so easy? I don't. While shot-making is much easier, I think that the challenge of getting out on a really tough, congested table is why they like it.
The players that excel in planning their run-outs in great detail and being able to execute their plans are the ones that will enjoy this game the most.
That was my logic behind the Chinese tables...they look tough!
Its not tough for them when their BNR rate is over 50%.
With the rules and equipment being used in Appleton's World Pool Series, it's not so easy -- http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=450846
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Huh?? I didn't refer to any 10 ft. Did you mean to reply to someone else???
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I enjoy watching packages put together. The thing is, even with Shane's break, he needs to deal with many really tough tables. If he happens to be able to run more than half of them, to me, that makes for good viewing from a spectator standpoint.
Selling beer and getting people through the door is what's it has always been about, beneath.
TO EVERYONE: you all realize why things are going to 7 footers, right?
It attracts more people to the game.
Isn't that what we want? More people playing our game?
We can't have it both ways.
The more participation in an industry the more money that flows into that industry.
I can't believe I even need to even say this.
That's why I love pool players: always something to complain about.
Best reply so far!!!!!! Someone who gets it!!
But there is a big difference between getting people through the door for local/regional tournaments and developing a high-level pro tour for TV.
Hasnt this dead horse been beat enough yet??
If you can run out on a "little" 7" table then surely you can run out on a 9' table. The only thing that might be harder is a longer shot on the 9' table, but once again if you can clear a 7' table so easy you wont have trouble on a 9' table. The only guys intimidated buy big tables are amatuers who do not play on them. I have both a 7' and 9' table at home to play on, the 9' is probably easier to run out on if you make a ball on the break. There are less clusters and less traffic on the big table, there are times you need to play les than desirable routes on 7' tables because of traffic, this makes it tougher in ways.
If you can run out on a "little" 7" table then surely you can run out on a 9' table. The only thing that might be harder is a longer shot on the 9' table, but once again if you can clear a 7' table so easy you wont have trouble on a 9' table. The only guys intimidated buy big tables are amatuers who do not play on them. I have both a 7' and 9' table at home to play on, the 9' is probably easier to run out on if you make a ball on the break. There are less clusters and less traffic on the big table, there are times you need to play les than desirable routes on 7' tables because of traffic, this makes it tougher in ways.
That's fairly 8-Ball focused though.
9-Ball is harder on a 9 footer and I'd argue the same for 10-Ball.
I've never played 1 pocket, but from what I understand that has to be harder on a 9 footer.
14.1, could be argued either way, I see the point about clusters and how the smaller table gets too crowded.
If you really think about it, what is "professional pool" anyway...? Seriously, think about it. These "professional" pool tournaments cannot fill their fields with nothing but "professional" level talent, so who cares? They play various different games with various different rules on various size tables with different equipment.
In a perfect world, it would be like any other sport but I guess we're just very far from a perfect world.
In a perfect world, it would be like any other sport but I guess we're just very far from a perfect world.
8-Ball stats for the top pros tend to be quite similar on 7-foot tables and 9-foot tables. Here's a comparison of results from the streamed matches of 3 events on each size table.
Events using 7-foot tables
Events using 9-foot tables:
[Note -- Event F had a significant rule difference from the other 5 events. The table was open after the break in the other events. But in event F, if the breaker made more of one group than the other on the break, he had to take the group with the higher count. This undoubtedly lowered the results for event F on 5 of the 7 measures shown here, so I showed the 9-footer results for those measures both including and excluding event F.]
Successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
Breaker won the game:
Break-and-run games, on all breaks:
Break-and-run games, on successful breaks:
Run-outs by the non-breaker after fouled or dry breaks:
Total run-outs by the player at the table following the break;
Games ending in one inning (by B&R or on non-breaker's first visit):
[Source -- my stats threads on each of these 6 events]
Events using 7-foot tables
- A = 2015 US Open 8-Ball Championship
B = 2015 US Bar Table 8-Ball Championship
C = 2016 US Open 8-Ball Championship
Events using 9-foot tables:
- D = 2014 CSI Invitational 8-Ball Championship
E = 2014 Accu-Stats "Make It Happen" Invitational 8-Ball event
F = 2016 Accu-Stats "Make It Happen" Invitational 8-Ball event
[Note -- Event F had a significant rule difference from the other 5 events. The table was open after the break in the other events. But in event F, if the breaker made more of one group than the other on the break, he had to take the group with the higher count. This undoubtedly lowered the results for event F on 5 of the 7 measures shown here, so I showed the 9-footer results for those measures both including and excluding event F.]
Successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
- A -- 67% (157 of 233)
B -- 68% (98 of 144)
C -- 76% (149 of 197)
Total (7-footers) -- 70% (404 of 574)
D -- 71% (154 of 218)
E -- 73% (85 of 117)
F -- 73% (182 of 251)
Total (9-footers) -- 72% (421 of 586)
Breaker won the game:
- A -- 64% (148 of 233)
B -- 58% (83 of 144)
C -- 64% (127 of 197)
Total (7-footers) -- 62% (358 of 574)
D -- 64% (139 of 218)
E -- 61% (71 of 117)
F -- 55% (139 of 251)
Total D & E -- 63% (210 of 335)
Total (9-footers) -- 60% (349 of 586)
Break-and-run games, on all breaks:
- A -- 52% (120 of 233)
B -- 44% (64 of 144)
C -- 53% (104 of 197)
Total (7-footers) -- 50% (288 of 574)
D -- 54% (118 of 218)
E -- 50% (59 of 117)
F -- 41% (102 of 251)
Total D & E -- 53% (177 of 335)
Total (9-footers) -- 48% (279 of 586)
Break-and-run games, on successful breaks:
- A -- 76% (120 of 157)
B -- 65% (64 of 98)
C -- 70% (104 of 149)
Total (7-footers) -- 71% (288 of 404)
D -- 77% (118 of 154)
E -- 69% (59 of 85)
F -- 56% (102 of 182)
Total D & E -- 74% (177 of 239)
Total (9-footers) -- 66% (279 of 421)
Run-outs by the non-breaker after fouled or dry breaks:
- A -- 71% (54 of 76)
B -- 54% (25 of 46)
C -- 67% (32 of 48)
Total (7-footers) -- 65% (111 of 170)
D -- 69% (44 of 64)
E -- 66% (21 of 32)
F -- 65% (45 of 69)
Total (9-footers) -- 67% (110 of 165)
Total run-outs by the player at the table following the break;
- A -- 75% (174 of 233)
B -- 62% (89 of 144)
C -- 69% (136 of 197)
Total (7-footers) -- 70% (399 of 574)
D -- 74% (162 of 218)
E -- 68% (80 of 117)
F -- 59% (147 of 251)
Total D & E -- 72% (242 of 335)
Total (9-footers) -- 66% (389 of 586)
Games ending in one inning (by B&R or on non-breaker's first visit):
- A -- 87% (203 of 233)
B -- 79% (114 of 144)
C -- 86% (170 of 197)
Total (7-footers) -- 85% (487 of 574)
D -- 88% (192 of 218)
E -- 85% (99 of 117)
F -- 78% (195 of 251)
Total D & E -- 87% (291 of 335)
Total (9-footers) -- 83% (486 of 586)
[Source -- my stats threads on each of these 6 events]
Wheres the stats on how many packs they are running on big tables?