Ummm....GC1 didn't come out until 61', not the 50's
Gold Crown 1 - Baltimore
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Ummm....GC1 didn't come out until 61', not the 50's
OK,,, so a ball park number for a used Diamond Pro Am is around $4,500... (There is one for sale on FB right now for that number, which includes a Diamond light)
My question is this: After spending a grand on this table how much is it (a ball park) going to cost to have a GOOD table specialist come to my house and set it up and totally trick it out?
I understand the cost goes up if the table was butchered in the past, but just wondering a ball park estimate.
I am thinking (guessing) from a financial standpoint, it is cheaper to buy a Diamond.
My question is this: After spending a grand on this table how much is it (a ball park) going to cost to have a GOOD table specialist come to my house and set it up and totally trick it out?
I understand the cost goes up if the table was butchered in the past, but just wondering a ball park estimate.
I am thinking (guessing) from a financial standpoint, it is cheaper to buy a Diamond.
Tbat all depends on who's doing the tricking out.....and how many times you're willing to pay to get it done right....the first time. That ProAm don't come with delivery and set up for $4500....does it?
That is correct,,, does not come with delivery and set up.
Ideally a person would want to have it done right the first time.
Think of it this way...
Diamond - $4500 (for the sake of simplicity, let's say this includes setup and delivery)
Gold Crown -
- $1000 Purchase Price
- $1500 Rail Work (I believe this is Mark Gregory's rate?)
- $1000 Delivery + Set Up (extremely high estimate)
- $1000 Strip, Paint, Replace Hardware (extremely high estimate)
Keep in mind, the Gold Crown could be fully customized, based on your desires...
I believe John Burns is the top table guy in your area. You should contact him. http://classicbilliardservice.com/
Completely agree. I love both the Brunswick anniversary and the centennial. Those were great designs, chocked full of aesthetic appeal. The gold crown was uninspired, IMO. I guess they have sentimental value to some though.
Depending on what you can do yourself this is what I spent on mine in 2014
Used GCI=$300.00
Recut sub-rails and tighten pockets= $500.00 ( I did not have Mark do it, he was about 6 weeks behind at the time, I was not willing to give up my table for that long)
Fed Ex= $175.00
Artemis cushions=$300.00
Simonis 860=$320.00
Sand, stain, and clear everything except rails= $100.00 (sandpaper, stain, clear urathaene, tape, all new stainless screws)
3M 10 adhesive and foam "brushes"=$50.00
Since I did everything but the rails myself I bought a few extras:
Matching Brunswick light-used=$500.00
New Centennials- $280.00
New Aramith Tournament Pros=$320.00
Brunswick "pleather" fitted cover=$120.00
That all comes out to about $3k, depending on how much you are able to do yourself, what you pay for a table, and how many "extras" you buy, I spent an extra $1100.00 on balls, light and a cover. The point is there is potential to have a nice table without breaking the babk.
I'm not so sure a Gold Crown 1 is readily available available at this price.
I actually like the tacky mid century style of the Gold Crown. The centennial is beautiful, but for 24k for a restored one vs 2k for an original, unrestored GC, I'll take the GC everyday.
I do agree with a previous poster, some of it is nostalgia for me. I grew up on Gold crowns, and they were also the table of the great golden years of pool. Check out the Brunswick video on Youtube about the golden years. I love the old Brunswick "family billiards"
A diamond is a fantastic table and clearly the best on the market today. Even for even money, I would choose a mint Gold Crown.
Ian
I do agree with a previous poster, some of it is nostalgia for me. I grew up on Gold crowns, and they were also the table of the great golden years of pool. Check out the Brunswick video on Youtube about the golden years. I love the old Brunswick "family billiards"
A diamond is a fantastic table and clearly the best on the market today. Even for even money, I would choose a mint Gold Crown.
Ian
Ummm... do you really think they DESIGNED it in 15 minuets?
By the 80s the style of the Gold Crown was considered way too reminiscent
of a Formica and chrome dining table set in the middle of your grandma's
kitchen in 1955.
They had it at the Kling... IMHO
Dale
Ummm... do you really think they DESIGNED it in 15 minuets?
By the 80s the style of the Gold Crown was considered way too reminiscent
of a Formica and chrome dining table set in the middle of your grandma's
kitchen in 1955.
They had it at the Kling... IMHO
http://www.bankshotantiques.com/table-bbc_kling-pr-w.html
Dale
The Centennial table was right at home in an ice cream parlor, or Happy days with the Fonz. And oh yeah....T-rail tables was the wave of the future...NOT! Why is it that people like you get stuck thinking the home table look should rule the commercial market place? Why do you think Brunswick moved away from tables like the Kling....because they don't fit in a commercial environment that's why! All you have to do is look at how that table looks today, then look at a 50+ year old GC....which one for the most part is beat to death looking...NOT the GC
The Centennial table was right at home in an ice cream parlor, or Happy days with the Fonz. And oh yeah....T-rail tables was the wave of the future...NOT! Why is it that people like you get stuck thinking the home table look should rule the commercial market place? Why do you think Brunswick moved away from tables like the Kling....because they don't fit in a commercial environment that's why! All you have to do is look at how that table looks today, then look at a 50+ year old GC....which one for the most part is beat to death looking...NOT the GC
You think the Kling was a home table...
I rest my case.
Dale( it's called good taste)
Now go find some pictures of that exact same Kling in a pool room today....and post the truth of how it really held up to commercial use!
Yes, i do, when compared to todays commercial tables and how much abuse they've been put through since 1961....your Kling would look like a fire wood pile....waiting to be thrown out and burned.
You're the same kind of person that would argue with anyone that a 1969 Shelby Cobra GT500 would run circles around a 2016 Shelby Cobra GT500....because it was built back in the day when Ford knew how to build muscle cars....LMAO
1300 for gold crown 3, arimith super pro balls and Simonis 860HR cloth.
400 for re-worked rails.
300 for setup.
Im looking at 2k when all said and done, but I am missing a few bolts, maybe 30 bucks for that.
Table was 800 alone. No moving price, my son and I picked up ourselves.
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The rail bolts are 2 1/4" long, but you better check every rail bolt hole first, there's a reason why there was 4 lag bolts in that lile of bolts.
You still need cushions after recutting sub-rails dont you??