Question for players that play with a really hard tip.

When thru playing thoroughly scuff tip, stand cue straight up, apply a large dollop of saliva, scuff again before playing. May take a few applications but will soften.
 
When thru playing thoroughly scuff tip, stand cue straight up, apply a large dollop of saliva, scuff again before playing. May take a few applications but will soften.

Why would you want to soften a hard tip? Why not just install a softer tip?
 
Please look at my history, and you will see that I rarely start threads anymore, and the types of replies that I usually receive (like yours) is exactly why. I can't ask anything without getting picked on. In the future, if a question about anything pool related comes to mind, I will just keep it to myself, or maybe post on facebook.


I did what you suggested and looked at your history. I was particularly impressed with the thread asking about being able to see if a cue is straight by looking down it.

I stand corrected. That's a fascinating subject that I'd hoped to see discussed here for some time. There must be dozens of ways to see if a cue is straight that I hadn't thought of before.

Here I go, though. Giving you the attention you crave. I don't even have the bourbon excuse this time.
 
I don't know why anybody would care what I do but since you asked I use a milk dud which is very hard and I don't scuff it. I use a tapper but instead of tapping the tip I roll the tapper across the tip to open it up evenly.

I play mostly 14.1 and I chalk about once a rack or if I'm hitting the cue ball on the edge I'll chalk before the shot.
 
It's a confidence thing at first when using a hard tip. I use nothing but one pc hard tips and Magic Chalk.....if I miscue which is rare, it's a bad stroke not the tip:groucho:

Have a good weekend,

-Kat,
 
Hello Justinb386....
I have mainly installed water buffalo as an alternative to the Phenolic break tips. They are a great tip for breaking that offer a little more control and feel. They are really not suitable for shooting.
 
Hello Justinb386....
I have mainly installed water buffalo as an alternative to the Phenolic break tips. They are a great tip for breaking that offer a little more control and feel. They are really not suitable for shooting.

Every new Sugartree cue comes standard with a WB. Does that mean they should be used as break cues only, because they aren't suitable for shooting?

I'm a cue maker and have no skin in the tip game. I choose a tip for quality alone. Price, hardness, brand, popularity, etc. means absolutely nothing to me. I'm sending out multi-thousand dollar cues to guys who need to have a good experience beginning with the very first ball they hit. There are lots of fancy tips of all hardness with all kinds of marketing & BS behind them. Some of them actually spin the hell out of the ball. A few of them even feel ok. NONE that I have tried are as dependable & accurate as a firm solid leather tip. Everybody judges tips by hardness and how much spin they can get. I judge them by how easy it is for me to "point & shoot" pocket balls. Can I shoot the shot I have shot 100,000 times before & make it without worry, or do I miss the pocket by a full diamond because something weird happened I can't explain? I will take the simple leather tip that gives me comfort any day over a tip that I can draw 9 rails. I use WB because they are currently the best solid tip being offered, IMO. That's the only reason. I like them precisely because they are the most suitable for shooting.
 
Hello Justinb386....
I have mainly installed water buffalo as an alternative to the Phenolic break tips. They are a great tip for breaking that offer a little more control and feel. They are really not suitable for shooting.
You made a statement like this on this forum? I'll never even try one of your tips after a comment like that. Look at what Eric, (Sugartree Cues), just posted. And BTW, I've used WB tips, (Schon), before and it played fine. I have 3 tips that I now use, Milkdud by pooldawg8, regular Triangle, and regular LePro !!!
 
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How much more was your guy charging for a Triangle or LePro?

The lepro was the same price ($5), but the last time I had him install a lepro on my cue, it turned out horrible, and the tip turned into soft mush, if that makes any sense. So, I was worried to have him install another lepro. So my only other choice was a buffalo. He only had 2 options for me (lepro and buffalo).
 
Well that just answered the question I was going to ask, which was why buy a hard tip with no idea how it would play. Dude, i dont know you paid for that water buffalo but a freaking ultraskin is less than $4.00, common man, & it comes in like 5 or 6 hardness'.

I wanted a tip on my cue right away. I did not want to wait. I could have had an ultraskin installed for $15, but the guy that has many tip options available makes you leave the shaft with him for 1 to 2 days, and this other guy that does tips at a local pool hall could do a tip for me in about 15 minutes and hand it right back to me. He is also really cheap (only $5 for a re tip job). I was unhappy with his work the 1st time, but he did a really great job on the buffalo tip. It was perfect.
 
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I prefer hard tips. Like others who have responded, my experience is that I get more action from a harder tip. I do not have problems with miscues if the tip is well-chalked. Years ago, I used a tip tapper, but have found quite a few tools that do a better job of scuffing the tip surface so it will hold a nice even layer of chalk. The Last4Ever, Willards, and Morakami/Kamui Gator tools are my current favorites. All of them work well for single layered tips. I prefer the Gator tools for layered tips because in my experience, less tip is removed while scuffing.
 
Poor responses.

It is a sad state of affairs that the internet and many forums are misused. It allows the spineless, the coward, the liar, and the general low life dip stick to run their suck with out any proper response. All you can end up with are meaningless back and forth dialogue that never ends with the appropriate response.

I don't have an answer for it with todays laws. Those types of people are protected by law and bottom feeding lawyers and over zealous prosecutors who have no honor.

I long for the days when dueling with a hand held weapon was the proper response for an undeserved insult.

What were we talking about?
 
It is a sad state of affairs that the internet and many forums are misused. It allows the spineless, the coward, the liar, and the general low life dip stick to run their suck with out any proper response. All you can end up with are meaningless back and forth dialogue that never ends with the appropriate response.

I don't have an answer for it with todays laws. Those types of people are protected by law and bottom feeding lawyers and over zealous prosecutors who have no honor.

I long for the days when dueling with a hand held weapon was the proper response for an undeserved insult.

What were we talking about?


Have you been here long enough to see more than one or two justinb386 threads?

No?

Then you really shouldn't comment on the replies to them.

Wait, you've been here since when and haven't noticed this guy's MO? Then you really should STFU. This guy is an attention whore. Nothing more.
 
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Yea I had to walk away from computer after this comment. Appears Mr. Crisp took care of that insane comment. Does this member actually sell / manufacturer tips :help:

-Kat,


Hello Justinb386....
I have mainly installed water buffalo as an alternative to the Phenolic break tips. They are a great tip for breaking that offer a little more control and feel. They are really not suitable for shooting.
 
Have you been here long enough to see more than one or two justinb386 threads?

No?

Then you really shouldn't comment on the replies to them.

Wait, you've been here since when and haven't noticed this guy's MO? Then you really should STFU. This guy is an attention whore. Nothing more.


It's apparent that you and several other posters have utter disdain for Justin and the content of mist of his posts. Ya'll are well aware of his mo...as you say.

You and others continually harass...belittle....insult....have called him names such as moron...retard and now an attention whore.

If his posts bother you so much why dont you and others like you exercise a lil self control and just STFU....not open his posts and give him the attention you think he craves.
 
My comment to Ak Guy was out of line, and for that I apologize.


But I won't apologize for smart ass comments on justin's threads, and for the record, "attention whore" is, I believe, the first time I've used a label to describe him.
 
Does this member actually sell / manufacturer tips :help:

It appears he at least sells a particular brand of tips. It was an absurd comment with no logical defense, apparently intended to be an opening for promoting the tips he sells. I normally wouldn't even respond to things like that except that in this case it was an off handed, albeit unintentional knock on my cues. No harm no foul.
 
The negativity in these threads make it hard to bare, and is senseless. The OP may very well be everything folks say he is, or he may be none of it. Doesn't matter. If the thread can discuss something of value, then the topic was worth discussing. It's a public pool forum where anybody & everybody can converse all things pool. Why should a guy be excluded or his questions be discredited because somebody doesn't like him? He may very well be bringing up the exact topic somebody else wants to discuss but doesn't because they see how others get treated. Inviting a discussion on hard tips in a public internet forum is harmless. For what possible reason could there be to personally attack, belittle, and ridicule a guy for it?
 
It appears he at least sells a particular brand of tips. It was an absurd comment with no logical defense, apparently intended to be an opening for promoting the tips he sells. I normally wouldn't even respond to things like that except that in this case it was an off handed, albeit unintentional knock on my cues. No harm no foul.
Eric, you don't need to waste energy defending anything about your cues. You've earned your great reputation for a reason.
 
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