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Diamond should start making an Anniversary/Continental style table.

So, Diamond should start copying Brunswick's tables to increase their sales? Why not send that suggestion to Brunswick, that they should step back in time and start selling a table from their past line up?
 
So, Diamond should start copying Brunswick's tables to increase their sales? Why not send that suggestion to Brunswick, that they should step back in time and start selling a table from their past line up?

Diamond should start making an Anniversary/Continental style table.
What I am suggesting is that diamond make a fancy classic style table.

If Brunswick could build a table as well designed and built as a Diamond but as stylish as a Brunswick..... THEN I would buy it.
 
What I am suggesting is that diamond make a fancy classic style table.

If Brunswick could build a table as well designed and built as a Diamond but as stylish as a Brunswick..... THEN I would buy it.
Have you seen the diamond Paragon table? It's about $10,000
 

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What I am suggesting is that diamond make a fancy classic style table.

If Brunswick could build a table as well designed and built as a Diamond but as stylish as a Brunswick..... THEN I would buy it.

Most people have no idea what nitch sales is. Have you ever noticed about 98% of Brunswick's pool tables are intended for the home sales market, whereas with Diamond, their sales are about 98% commercial:eek: even with the Paragon table, Diamond only sells about 10-15 of them a year, and only a few more Professionals, yet they sell a shit load of ProAms and Smart tables, and are even backordered several hundred tables....but, not with their home style pool tables. So, what would you predict the sales would be for a lookalike centennial/anniversary....10, 15, maybe 20 a year?
 
Ford sells more Fiestas than it’s over models.
Fiat sells The Smart.
It’s Function over Form.

Don’t get me wrong Diamond makes the best functional table, just not the best looking table.

Seven foot Bar Boxes are exempt because they have to be designed the way they are to be transportable.

It’s just some of us wish they were a bit more..... classic looking?
Maybe use a lighter wood on the corners for a two-tone look?
Less of a Chunky look?
Smoother lines?

Do the Professionals and the Pro-Ams have the same functionality?
If so I don’t know why the Pro-Am sells better than the Professional.
Maybe people want a different look than what is considered traditional.

Maybe I’m just used too (old) nostalgic.
 
Most people have no idea what nitch sales is. Have you ever noticed about 98% of Brunswick's pool tables are intended for the home sales market, whereas with Diamond, their sales are about 98% commercial:eek: even with the Paragon table, Diamond only sells about 10-15 of them a year, and only a few more Professionals, yet they sell a shit load of ProAms and Smart tables, and are even backordered several hundred tables....but, not with their home style pool tables. So, what would you predict the sales would be for a lookalike centennial/anniversary....10, 15, maybe 20 a year?

Diamond's largest market is still the "replacement" market for Valley bar tables, which are in thousands of taverns across the U.S. It may take years for them to fill this need for good playing bar tables. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
 
I understand.

So a Diamond wouldn't be any more difficult to level than anything else for a skilled mechanic, even though he was unfamiliar with the table?

If the mechanic is truly skilled, he is probably familiar with a Diamond. On the off chance he's not, he should be able to figure it out.
 
Diamond's largest market is still the "replacement" market for Valley bar tables, which are in thousands of taverns across the U.S. It may take years for them to fill this need for good playing bar tables. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

To an extent, you're right Jay, but Diamond is also sending a LOT of tables out of country to NEW market places, you'd be suprised by how many Diamond's are in Moscow Russia, as well as a lot of other countries, and what they're not having to deal with, is the American buyers complaining about the cost of buying a Diamond, and why can't the cost the same as a Valley;)
 
Ford sells more Fiestas than it’s over models.
Fiat sells The Smart.
It’s Function over Form.

Don’t get me wrong Diamond makes the best functional table, just not the best looking table.

Seven foot Bar Boxes are exempt because they have to be designed the way they are to be transportable.

It’s just some of us wish they were a bit more..... classic looking?
Maybe use a lighter wood on the corners for a two-tone look?
Less of a Chunky look?
Smoother lines?

Do the Professionals and the Pro-Ams have the same functionality?
If so I don’t know why the Pro-Am sells better than the Professional.
Maybe people want a different look than what is considered traditional.

Maybe I’m just used too (old) nostalgic.

Diamond would be foolish to step out of their way to start considering building a home table that they might sell 20-30 a year for several reasons. Just like in a pool room with 20 9ft pool tables, you always have those few players that are always telling the owner the tables would be so much better to play on if the pockets were tighter, and if the owner agrees to tighten them up, they'll tell ALL their friends to start playing there. Owner listens, has the pockets tightened up, sees 3 new faces, then notices all the regulars are starting to dissapear. What the owner should have told the players that wanted tighter pockets because the tables would be better....was, well... I'm sure there's somewhere else that has tables with tighter pockets that has a waiting list of players, tell me where its at and I'll go check it out FIRST before i start messing around with what i KNOW works!

The meaning is, there's a lot of other table manufactures out there, how come they are not jumping on the centennial/anniversary bandwagon?

You don't have a pool table at home currently, you want to buy a pool table soon, you don't like anything already being sold, so...if Diamond someday builds a pool table you like, you'll be the first one to buy, but if Diamond decides not to go in that direction.... you'll never own a pool table at home....gotcha;)
 
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