Dealing with pool players can be ridiculous: your opinion on my pool table sale

jalapus logan said:
Lol, yup. I've seen 3 man ring games arranged thusly. Some consider hustling an art. And it just might be. It's also sad and only guarantees that everyone loses.
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Some consider hustling an art. The art of unethical swindling. :D
 
what is he doing wrong here. you offered him a table and he agreed to buy it but ended up not having the money. so he finds someone else who will pay more and asks if you will still honor the original price so he can make a profit. whats wrong with him doing that.

just because you thought you were giving him a break was that part of the deal? or just in your own mind.

you have no obligation to sell it since he didnt follow through, so do whatever you want.
 
maha said:
what is he doing wrong here. you offered him a table and he agreed to buy it but ended up not having the money. so he finds someone else who will pay more and asks if you will still honor the original price so he can make a profit. whats wrong with him doing that.

just because you thought you were giving him a break was that part of the deal? or just in your own mind.

you have no obligation to sell it since he didnt follow through, so do whatever you want.
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Well, he didn't ask me, rather, he informed me that he was going to "let his buddy buy it for more money". And yes, I told him that the price was for hm and him alone.

Im thinking Brandon's suggestion about destroying the table sounds best right now, lol.
 
maha said:
what is he doing wrong here. you offered him a table and he agreed to buy it but ended up not having the money. so he finds someone else who will pay more and asks if you will still honor the original price so he can make a profit. whats wrong with him doing that.
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If the guy knew he was getting the "friends" discount as a favor then what he attempted to do was an exceptionally crappy thing. If someone doesn't see that it can only be because they were never taught proper morals.

Even if the guy thought he was getting no special deal at all and was paying full market price it is still pretty crappy to try to find another buyer for more and pocket all the difference. That wouldn't be so big a deal if he was actually paying for the table and taking possession of it, and then turning around and flipping it, but the way it is now he is just using his friend to finance his investments and that just isn't right any way you cut it.
 
jalapus logan said:
Well, he didn't ask me, rather, he informed me that he was going to "let his buddy buy it for more money". And yes, I told him that the price was for hm and him alone.

Im thinking Brandon's suggestion about destroying the table sounds best right now, lol.
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I’d refund the money he’s already paid you, possibly minus 10% for storage of the table while financed. I’d then stop associating with that individual, as it’s clearly a one sided friendship
 
Poolplaya9 said:
If the guy knew he was getting the "friends" discount as a favor then what he attempted to do was an exceptionally crappy thing. If someone doesn't see that it can only be because they were never taught proper morals.

Even if the guy thought he was getting no special deal at all and was paying full market price it is still pretty crappy to try to find another buyer for more and pocket all the difference. That wouldn't be so big a deal if he was actually paying for the table and taking possession of it, and then turning around and flipping it, but the way it is now he is just using his friend to finance his investments and that just isn't right any way you cut it.
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This is pretty much how I view it.
 
vapoolplayer said:
I’d refund the money he’s already paid you, possibly minus 10% for storage of the table while financed. I’d then stop associating with that individual, as it’s clearly a one sided friendship
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The refund will be easy, zero, as that's what he has paid me to date, lol.
 
Tell him to pound sand. He wanted a deal from you to start with, didn't honor the terms and now wants a different deal where he makes money on it?

Nope.
 
jalapus logan said:
Thanks, I'm of like mind here. I think that the bottom line with me is that I don't want to encourage this kind of mindset. I'm sure it will be lost on him though, but whatever.
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I'd say to consider how it benefits your home selling. If it helps with showing your game
Room, or brings down the decor by limiting the vision of the buyer. I side with the poster who said to use it, and then give it away... but with consideration of the above, and when the time comes give it to a worthy party.. boys and girls club, VA , or whatever you can get a gift receipt for tax purposes.. and the feel good of helping out others as well.

Td
 
jalapus logan said:
Howdy fellas. I kinda feel a bit pissed about the oral terms of my pool table sale. Long story short, I've agreed to sell my valley bar box to a fella on my BCAPL team for $XXX (not a sum of money I'm really concerned about). He was interested and I wanted to help out a fellow pool player and teammate by giving him a deal I knew was under priced for the market (I'm a softy when it comes to broke D$#% pool players). He says that he wants it, but wants to make installment payments on a weekly basis and when its paid off we agreed he would take posession of the table. No money has ever been forthcoming, so I forgot about it all. That was several months ago...

Fast forward to yesterday: he calls me up and says that he still wants to "buy" the table, the only thing is that he is gonna "let" his friend buy it for a higher price, pay me the original price we had negotiated and then pocket the difference as his profit. I'm calling bullshit on this one and feel kinda pissed off.

Am I out of bounds for feeling pissed? Would I technically be reneging on a deal? I feel betrayed frankly. I guess no good deed goes unpunished???

Part of me just wants to go ahead with it and get it out of my hair (upcoming home move in a year or so).

Opinions???
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If you feel that you only wanted to sell the table to your team mate at a cheaper price (then you should be able to get out of it), because he is your team mate, and you thought he really wanted it for himself, to practice at home on, then don't sell it to him. If you think you can get more money for the table, and you want to sell it, then put it up for sale on the open market. But if you are in a hurry to get rid of it asap , then sell it for the original agreed upon amount. Yeah, your team mate is making an unknown profit off of the sale, but if you think that it could not be that much money, and you are wanting to get rid of the table asap, then just sell it and let him be the middle man to make a little bit of cash on the deal. On the other hand, if he wanted to do the right thing, then he would just have given the other guy your contact info, so there would be no middle man, and you would get more money out of the table.

If it were me, I would just have given the person (who wants to buy the table at a higher price) your contact info (believe it or not).
 
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