Beware of Royce827
- Thread starter Rackattach
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I have issued full and partial refunds thru paypal. It can take time to show up on the other end. Sometimes days. I send the transaction number to calm the impatient ones down.
Sometimes you cannot make somebody happy no matter the honesty, effort and cash back.
This whole thread does sound a mess,
But an eye opener, nonetheless.
I’ve never heard of agreeing to a price and the buyer sends less money? That sounds kinda fishy to me and it seems like the OP is right.
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I think it was more of agreeing on a price and then the guy coming back and renegotiating before he sent the money. Though I’m not sure.
Either way is suspect, but renegotiating is much better than just sending less.
What's your return policy? The case you lied about being Lizard Leather is back for sale:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=463558
For the record everyone, there is no such thing as an It's George Five case, the V means Vinyl
What I read clearly says vinyl ? ??
It seems the OP wants people to butt out after he made this a public issue.
To the OP: You made it public. So we will comment.
I have been watching several ongoing strange issues.
1) Listings of "for sale" items that are strange
2) Listings of "wanted" items that are strange
3) A posted cue inviting comment that is strange
4) This thread
5) Questions and comments about cues that indicate less knowledge than one might expect from somebody buying and selling cues. Seriously. You give the impression that you either do not know your gig or that you are misleading people.
Ideologist has pointed out a couple of valid issues. You don't like it and ask him to butt out.
I have not seen you effectively respond to or explain any of the issues I have observed or that have been brought up.
To put it mildly you have raised suspicions among people that know cues, some of whom are very well known and of some established reputation. And not all of them have chosen to comment.
How you deal with this will determine the outcome. There are several examples of people that have dealt poorly with such issues, some dealers, some cue makers, some otherwise. There are also examples of people that have dealt with it well. It is up to you to choose which group you belong to.
To be frank, so far what I am seeing are bonehead maneuvers on your part.
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To the OP: You made it public. So we will comment.
I have been watching several ongoing strange issues.
1) Listings of "for sale" items that are strange
2) Listings of "wanted" items that are strange
3) A posted cue inviting comment that is strange
4) This thread
5) Questions and comments about cues that indicate less knowledge than one might expect from somebody buying and selling cues. Seriously. You give the impression that you either do not know your gig or that you are misleading people.
Ideologist has pointed out a couple of valid issues. You don't like it and ask him to butt out.
I have not seen you effectively respond to or explain any of the issues I have observed or that have been brought up.
To put it mildly you have raised suspicions among people that know cues, some of whom are very well known and of some established reputation. And not all of them have chosen to comment.
How you deal with this will determine the outcome. There are several examples of people that have dealt poorly with such issues, some dealers, some cue makers, some otherwise. There are also examples of people that have dealt with it well. It is up to you to choose which group you belong to.
To be frank, so far what I am seeing are bonehead maneuvers on your part.
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He is reselling it as he doesn't want vinyl. Look up Rackattachs original listing of the case for the lack of vinyl disclosure...
justinb386
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That is not the point though. Why are people going off topic on here? The point is that a deal was made for the purchase of the cue, and the seller was dishonest about shipping it (apparently). What the buyer would have done with the cue (after he received it) is a completely different topic. Why do people always go off topic in a discussion thread?
The point is there are quite a few red flags in the OPs prior dealings which may mean he’s not telling the whole story.
The seller refuted all of the accusations, so it’s a he said/he said issue. Not sure where your “apparently” statement comes from unless you didn’t read the whole thread.
justinb386
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more interesting to me is what did the op have planned for this frankenscruggs... ?
best,
brian kc
Maybe he just wanted it as a player? Was it not in playable condition "as is"?
justinb386
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Not if he was to advertise them the correct way (saying that they were Scruggs blanks with an original Scruggs shaft added). It would only be counterfeit if he were to add a TS to the butt, right?
justinb386
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So, being shorted 25 cents was really a deal breaker? Hard to believe that. He should have paid you the full $450 though, if that was the original offer. Did you eventually agree to sell for $400 shipped, if he covered the paypal fee though? I can only assume that he would have been willing to paypal you the extra 25 cents that you were short changed on (in order to get the cue shipped out), lol. Are people in this world really that cheap? Wow.
justinb386
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The cue sounds really interesting. Maybe something I would be interested in. I love vintage unknown mystery cues.
justinb386
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I do not know, but I imagine that it was just a very slight miscalculation in the 3% that paypal charges. Probably an honest error, that could have been fixed by just asking him to send you another dollar or whatever, if need be. Very hard to believe that 25 cents was a deal breaker though.
justinb386
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I would be really pissed too, if someone did that to me (and all over being shorted 25 cents? / which was probably an honest miscalculation, of the price including the 3% paypal fee). And then he lied about shipping the cues? That is just horrible, and unbelievable that 25 cents was really the deal breaker.
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