Cuetec CF Shaft

Here you go, sir....

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=442251

Lots of links, info, AZ member reviews, video demonstrations and an interview with the cue makers....
Like I said, I was sold when they worked with me to get the diameter size I requested. Predator and now Cuetec made custom sizes for many of their pros...and friends...but to the public they only offered their standard lengths and sizes.
These guys get it. The customer should get a CF shaft adapted to themselves, not have to be forced to adapt their game to the shaft because it wasn't offered in their specifications.

I agree with every word!!!!

I love the revo I have but if I had of known about Becue at the time I NEVER would've bought the revo. I would've bought the Becue without a doubt.
 
One disadvantage that I see for CF shafts is that they all need an insert. You coukd not screw into the carbon itself like you do for wood. Those inserts would be glued not threaded and some will develop issues over time. In terms of feel, some joints types will be better than others.

Julian
 
It wasn't much of an announcement, but here's what Cuetec said on their Facebook page today:

You have all been very patient as we settled on key details for our new shaft. GOOD NEWS! We have the shaft and cue specs. Our Carbon Composite cue will feature a 12.5mm tip, a 15 ½" SST (Super Slim Taper), a ¼” white ferrule, a 21.30mm joint, and Cuetec’s Acueweight system.

And then later in comments in response to this question: "Will it be made with a radial joint for people who don't want to buy a new cue, just the shaft?"

Yes. The shaft will come in a variety of joint sizes, radial is one of them.

And in response to "When and how much $$?"
Aiming to have it in stores by late December. Check in with a local cue dealer late November/early December to see when they will have it in and if it is available for pre-order. Pricing will be announced very soon. Keep an eye on our social media pages.
 
You sir have a bet. I'll give Cuetech 1 year from when they formally announce their CF shaft to also formally announce they will make it available for competitor cues.

I'll find a way to get you a dozen doughnuts:grin-square:

I think I already won this one..... :)


I smell donuts !!!
 
Here you go, sir....

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=442251

Lots of links, info, AZ member reviews, video demonstrations and an interview with the cue makers....
Like I said, I was sold when they worked with me to get the diameter size I requested. Predator and now Cuetec made custom sizes for many of their pros...and friends...but to the public they only offered their standard lengths and sizes.
These guys get it. The customer should get a CF shaft adapted to themselves, not have to be forced to adapt their game to the shaft because it wasn't offered in their specifications.

Thanks for the info. The ~$1000 for the cue is too steep for me when I’m uncertain about whether I’d like it, but it looks like I could get a 5.1 shaft for ~$400 and then put it on a butt. Do you think that makes sense, and what issues would I need to think about in getting a butt for it?
 
One disadvantage that I see for CF shafts is that they all need an insert. You coukd not screw into the carbon itself like you do for wood. Those inserts would be glued not threaded and some will develop issues over time. In terms of feel, some joints types will be better than others.

Julian

On my shafts, that I was making, yes the insert into the carbon is glued and not threaded. The glue is a special glue , that we use for our product. On our destructive testing, the shaft section fails before the glued insert ever fails. Shafts from 2005 have not failed, and the joint is still good. Our shafts used an internal tennon and a replaceable tip system, that allows tips to be replaced or changed. This tip system allowed for interchangeable tips on a pool cue, that played as well as a single use glued on cue tip.
Neil
 
Our shafts used an internal tennon and a replaceable tip system, that allows tips to be replaced or changed. This tip system allowed for interchangeable tips on a pool cue, that played as well as a single use glued on cue tip.
Neil

Interchangeable tips are almost 100% frowned upon by serious pool players in most of the countries of the world. There hasn't been one yet that gives the feel/feedback of what most players are looking for from their tips. I have never liked any of the screw-on tips I have ever tried. Do you have an alternate way to interchange tips?

Can you name any tournament pros or well-known players that use your interchangeable tips?

Maniac
 
Interchangeable tips are almost 100% frowned upon by serious pool players in most of the countries of the world. There hasn't been one yet that gives the feel/feedback of what most players are looking for from their tips. I have never liked any of the screw-on tips I have ever tried. Do you have an alternate way to interchange tips?

Can you name any tournament pros or well-known players that use your interchangeable tips?

Maniac

No.
I can tell you pros who tried it, and did like it. They were sponsored and could not use it. Some who have tried it are Corey Duel, Alison Fisher,Tim Chin, then others like Chris Hightower,Mike Massey, and quite a few others at the 2009 billiards expo. My latest system which is in my album, has the taper seat with a trick made pin that is threaded down inside the taper seat. This allows for tip holders to be made from most regular ferrule materials, as well as Carbon fibre. The tips are matched to a precision taper seat. Some use my tip system on cues, so a customer can try different tips, before choosing the tip they want on their cue. Ryan who was Rat cues does this, and some others.
Due to health problems, have had to stop making cues, and working on them.
Neil
 
No.
I can tell you pros who tried it, and did like it. They were sponsored and could not use it. Some who have tried it are Corey Duel, Alison Fisher,Tim Chin, then others like Chris Hightower,Mike Massey, and quite a few others at the 2009 billiards expo. My latest system which is in my album, has the taper seat with a trick made pin that is threaded down inside the taper seat. This allows for tip holders to be made from most regular ferrule materials, as well as Carbon fibre. The tips are matched to a precision taper seat. Some use my tip system on cues, so a customer can try different tips, before choosing the tip they want on their cue. Ryan who was Rat cues does this, and some others.
Due to health problems, have had to stop making cues, and working on them.
Neil

That's pretty detailed info but could you post a couple of pics? Thanks.

Maniac
 
That's pretty detailed info but could you post a couple of pics? Thanks.

Maniac

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mini insert for regular ferrules
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Tip system until 2013
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But use the mini insert system on carbon shafts after 2013.
Neil
 
It wasn't much of an announcement, but here's what Cuetec said on their Facebook page today:



And then later in comments in response to this question: "Will it be made with a radial joint for people who don't want to buy a new cue, just the shaft?"



And in response to "When and how much $$?"

I'm glad they gave info even though, I will not buy as long as it is above 12mm.

Becue is sounding better and better.

Predator's time is running low on time too as far as I'm concerned. I will sell my revo and buy Becue so I can get 12mm or smaller with longer shaft.

Pin options was a plus but that's where the positives end with cuetec.. IMO.

I don't care about price. Not one damn bit. I want, what I want. I'm willing to pay for it as long as it has all the right specs.

To me, I don't think we are asking to much of these greedy a55 spoiled American cue companies.

Give us a choice in:

Diameter
Length
Pin

He'll, even the smallest of shops do that. I know exactly what it takes to offer those in c.f.. it's a little pain but it's a LOT of profit.

I'm done donating to these fookin greedy sobs. Not another nickel until they are more flexible.
 
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mini insert for regular ferrules
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Tip system until 2013
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But use the mini insert system on carbon shafts after 2013.
Neil

That's an interesting product you have there. Very intricate in detail. Is there something involved that keeps the tip from loosening during play?

Thanks for the pics...that's pretty cool.

Maniac
 
No.
I can tell you pros who tried it, and did like it. They were sponsored and could not use it. Some who have tried it are Corey Duel, Alison Fisher,Tim Chin, then others like Chris Hightower,Mike Massey, and quite a few others at the 2009 billiards expo. My latest system which is in my album, has the taper seat with a trick made pin that is threaded down inside the taper seat. This allows for tip holders to be made from most regular ferrule materials, as well as Carbon fibre. The tips are matched to a precision taper seat. Some use my tip system on cues, so a customer can try different tips, before choosing the tip they want on their cue. Ryan who was Rat cues does this, and some others.
Due to health problems, have had to stop making cues, and working on them.
Neil

Predator, cuetec... and all others should hire you or at least let you redesign there manf plans.

I know your c.f. shaft are a little different than the others but I also know their production could be so close if not exact.
 
The primary benefit is energy transfer. More power with less input. The secondary advantage is extremely low deflection. Finally, the dent proof aspect and smoothness is nice. Those are the main reasons anyone cares about the Revo or similar carbon fiber shafts.

KMRUNOUT


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Another benefit is that these CF shafts should not warp though I haven't heard any confirmation yet as to whether this would mean you can leave your gear in the car regardless of temperature.

Maybe someone with knowledge on this can confirm - can CFwithstand a hot car situation?

best,
brian kc
 
Another benefit is that these CF shafts should not warp though I haven't heard any confirmation yet as to whether this would mean you can leave your gear in the car regardless of temperature.

Maybe someone with knowledge on this can confirm - can CFwithstand a hot car situation?

best,
brian kc
Predator says yes on their website.

Julian
 
21.3mm is .840, the exact size of Predator’s joint. Do you think they’re trying to take someone’s lunch money?
 
That's an interesting product you have there. Very intricate in detail. Is there something involved that keeps the tip from loosening during play?

Thanks for the pics...that's pretty cool.

Maniac

yes this needs its own thread (no pun)

the potential for screw in tips is huge imo, just wondering how this affects end mass and shooting properties
 
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