Yeah, Shaw certainly choked, badly overcutting not that difficult a shot on the 1-ball in the hill/hill game when he should have been out. Can't say I thought much of Woodward's imitation of Shaw starting his celebration before potting the 9-ball shot to win the match. No need to stoop to Shaw's antics.
Mosconi Cup week 2018
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Bit of a grey area grammatically...the British say.” The company are .”.sometimes...
...We in North America say “The company is .”
Collective nouns can be looked at both ways reasonably.
Britain and America....separated by a common language...
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Great for TV though. Fits the tone of the event as long as it doesn’t get out of hand – referee needs to step in when needed – plus Shaw appreciated that moment as well haha
I’m pro-Europe but I’m rooting for the US this year – I want to see the three young ‘uns use this win to boost their self belief and hopefully go on to bigger things. For one, we will have a fiercely competitive mosconi cup in future. But even if for whatever inexplicable reason that they fail, this mosconi cup has been a defining one for them. They’ve had Europe on the ropes, and they have the belief now that they can do it again.
I don't think the US is playing that much better than typical, nor is Europe playing much worse. There's a big difference between the rookies Styler and Kaci, but that's about it. Ouschan is playing fantastic, SVB is not much above his usual Mosconi performance, Woodward and Thorpe are playing well but it's not like they're doing anything spectacular. They've all made mistakes, they've all made some great shots - it's pool. A couple of different rolls and it could be the other way.
This is a pretty accurate assessment of what's going on. It seems that this year we are getting a little bit of an edge on those friendly rolls the European team has seemed to have gotten when they needed it the most.
The Skyker Jayson match was a good example....first rack skyler goes for cut on 3 ball in side, misses, but cue ball goes two rails and rolls dead behind the 6, forcing Shaw to kick and miss, giving sky ball in hand to go up 1
The euros had their rolls too, but we just have one or two more and that makes a huge difference in Mosconi race to 5.
Another example is the entire Styer Feijen match...Styer was the recipient of some great luck and he made it count.
In recent years, USA has played in close matches but seemed to not get those much needed rolls, or capitalize on them like the Euros did. This year is different.
Calling Herb Brooks
We would have been proud of Olympic Hockey Team USA in .1980 too, even
if they had lost to Finland. It would only be a footnote that USA defeated Russia,
considered the best hockey team in the world but lost to Finland, to lose the Gold.
No Miracle on Ice. Coach Herb Brooks told them after two periods You lose this
game and you will take it to your F***ing graves. They rallied, won and the rest is
as they say history. Possibly the greatest USA team victory of all time. This is not
the Olympics with millions watching, but it is a big thing for USA pool players
and fans. A long awaited,rare opportunity. Don't blow it, SHOOT THEIR NU_S OFF.
jack
I don't know what is going to happen tomorrow, but I'm pretty proud of this USA team.... guys generally ranked well lower than their counterparts across the board, with the exception of SVB. And yet, through some good old fashioned grit, these youngsters have persevered and have created a fairly nice David vs Goliath story come true.
With any luck, they'll close this Mosconi story tomorrow.
We would have been proud of Olympic Hockey Team USA in .1980 too, even
if they had lost to Finland. It would only be a footnote that USA defeated Russia,
considered the best hockey team in the world but lost to Finland, to lose the Gold.
No Miracle on Ice. Coach Herb Brooks told them after two periods You lose this
game and you will take it to your F***ing graves. They rallied, won and the rest is
as they say history. Possibly the greatest USA team victory of all time. This is not
the Olympics with millions watching, but it is a big thing for USA pool players
and fans. A long awaited,rare opportunity. Don't blow it, SHOOT THEIR NU_S OFF.
jack
I am all for Europe, being European, but I like the way this tournament is turning out.
It is good for the Sport. I think for the first time there has not been any "Drama" going on and just People concentrating on pool and US-Team is acting like a Team for once. Good on them!
I believe Johan's skillset has had something to do with it.
All in all Matchroom certainly have created a nice entertaining Event.
I would throw a couple of the fans there out....bring Michaela back and she'll sort them out in a rush!
Cheers,
Kimmo
It is good for the Sport. I think for the first time there has not been any "Drama" going on and just People concentrating on pool and US-Team is acting like a Team for once. Good on them!
I believe Johan's skillset has had something to do with it.
All in all Matchroom certainly have created a nice entertaining Event.
I would throw a couple of the fans there out....bring Michaela back and she'll sort them out in a rush!
Cheers,
Kimmo
Agree.
It's not the level of play on either side, it's the rolls. The US has had a loooong spell of getting horrific rolls at all the worst times -- and it seemed like the Europeans always came out smelling like rose water. This year the US is getting some pretty good rolls and that is the big difference.
Lou Figueroa
Funny thing about luck, it looks so much like something you deserve.
It was.....ONE HUNDRED PERCENT JUSTIFIED!!!!!
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I need to see Tyler Styer vs. Albin Ouschan on Day 4. The 2 current possible MVP's going at it.
Skyler Woodward has played in 5 matches and won 4 of them.
Tyler Styer has played in 5 matches and won 4 of them.
Billy Thorpe has played in 4 matches and won 2 of them so he is out.
Corey Deuel has played in 3 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
SVB has played in 5 matches and won 3 of them so he is out.
They are both gunning for MVP, I guess day 4 will settle that. I am obviously excluding the first team match in this stat.
I wouldn't mind seeing Skyler vs. Albin either.
On the European side:
Albin has played in 4 matches and won 3 of them.
Feijen has played in 4 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
Alex has played in 4 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
Shaw has played in 5 matches and won 2 of them so he is DEFINITELY out.
Kaci has played in 4 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
I mean this one isn't really a debate.
Skyler Woodward has played in 5 matches and won 4 of them.
Tyler Styer has played in 5 matches and won 4 of them.
Billy Thorpe has played in 4 matches and won 2 of them so he is out.
Corey Deuel has played in 3 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
SVB has played in 5 matches and won 3 of them so he is out.
They are both gunning for MVP, I guess day 4 will settle that. I am obviously excluding the first team match in this stat.
I wouldn't mind seeing Skyler vs. Albin either.
On the European side:
Albin has played in 4 matches and won 3 of them.
Feijen has played in 4 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
Alex has played in 4 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
Shaw has played in 5 matches and won 2 of them so he is DEFINITELY out.
Kaci has played in 4 matches and won 1 of them so he is out.
I mean this one isn't really a debate.
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Does anyone know the intricacies of how the players are matched up?
I understand the coach hands in his list of players on each team, and they go from there, but in a post match interview, Styer said he told Coach Johann he wanted to go up against Niels. I always thought the lineups were handed in blind and they couldn't select the opponent.
I understand the coach hands in his list of players on each team, and they go from there, but in a post match interview, Styer said he told Coach Johann he wanted to go up against Niels. I always thought the lineups were handed in blind and they couldn't select the opponent.
Seriously????????
AtLarge reported yesterday that USA won 8 of the 15 lags....
...which is far better than usual.
It can be a big thing in short matches....every hill-hill match...lag winner gets the crush.
I guess. I've just never put much thought into lag winner. Maybe that's been our downfall over the last bunch of years. Headline: "U.S. is a bunch of laggard laggers. Film at eleven."
I saw Shane lag two times, he laid it ON the head rail both times. Both teams lagged pretty well. It's an important shot for sure.
