Diamond versus Brunswick
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those things are SO KOOL! I have a couple of them
Trent from Toledo
Perfect place to set your chalk. That's what I used them for.
I agree.
Nice. When I was growing up a kid down the street from me had a GC with those on the table. His mom used to fill them with candies and peanuts for us
@trentfromtoledo: Thanks for your answer, a greenie in return.
Still being one of those horrible smokers and politically incorrect as well - I miss those ashtrays. Oh well, actually I don't miss them since they were not too useful. Making a mess around them if not cleaned constantly. A separate ashtray somewhere on a table around the pool table is more useful
Still being one of those horrible smokers and politically incorrect as well - I miss those ashtrays. Oh well, actually I don't miss them since they were not too useful. Making a mess around them if not cleaned constantly. A separate ashtray somewhere on a table around the pool table is more useful
Diamonds are great tables if rail and felt cloth is new or almost new. After they worn out little they start play really short and strange jumps from rails.
Brunswick plays good always.
I prefer Brunswick but Diamond pockets are fair and still tough.
IMHO Brunswick>Diamond. but new Diamond is best table.
Brunswick plays good always.
I prefer Brunswick but Diamond pockets are fair and still tough.
IMHO Brunswick>Diamond. but new Diamond is best table.
You have led a sheltered life.
Bob where do you normally play that you have such a bad opinion of a GC?
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The GCs where I usually play are OK except for a couple of rolls and one questionable pocket. The other current place had GCs that had been "tightened" and ended up with goofy pockets. Pockets that behaved like no other pockets I had seen. They have replaced those tournament tables with Diamonds.
As I've mentioned multiple times before, around 1995 several rooms opened in this area with lots of GC3s. All of the rooms had the "dying rubber" syndrome. As I also mentioned before the &^%##s at Brunswick refused to provide any help for those and other problems -- nearly new tables. Or at least that's what the room owners told me.
I have played on GCs since 1965. I bought a used GC1.5 when I had room for it. There have been good ones and bad ones. Certainly all of them through the GC3 shared fundamental design issues that a lot of players who have bonded to the GC somehow overlook. If you cannot quickly name at least five things that were pitiful about the GC design, you just aren't trying.
Bob, I guess I haven't played enough on GC's to know what those 5 things are - for those of us that don't know, would you mind listing in as simple a terms as possible? My guess - the raised top edge of the pocket liners, the exposed screw/nail heads inside the pocket liners that can damage the balls, the issues you discussed with the cushion rubbers going bad too soon, the frame design resulting in the slates often sagging in the middle. I'm having a little trouble figuring out a 5th design flaw? Thanks
Here's one that's been mentioned already: the raised metal nameplate. Would you like to see my scars? The scorewheels have a similar issue and are now usually inoperative. Cheap design, cheap manufacture.
A friend of mine required a trip to ER from a dinged-up ashtray.
Yep, that GC cost him (memory)..... 6 9r 7 stitches and a ER bill to boot.
I got a couple scares my self but nothing worth mentioning. On the other hand, lol.... had lots of pant / shirts that would not agree if they could have talked.
Like you said, there are other things as well......
Diamond......snip!
Are we back to blaming in-animate objects for pool battle scars??? Last time I checked I never heard of a pool table attacking anyone. Pretty sure its the funniest thing I have heard all day. Carry on! Good entertainment!
Trent from Toledo
Carry on! Good entertainment!Trent from Toledo
Are we back to blaming in-animate objects for pool battle scars??? Last time I checked I never heard of a pool table attacking anyone. Pretty sure its the funniest thing I have heard all day.
Trent from Toledo
Would you rather pat a dog.....or a porcupine?
I don't like either. Both can mess up your day!
Seriously though, its silly.
Trent from Toledo
No offense Chris, but, you obviously do no understand the issue with the GC3 frame.
If the end sills sag, how could that make the frame sag in the middle?
The end sills sag and that causes the slate seams to pop and then the ends are sagging.
There is no way ANY GC frame would sag in the middle.
Using liquid dowels on the seams and using angle iron(THANKS RKC) under the end sills fixes the issue. I usually only run into this issue on commercial installs and I assume it is mostly from people sitting or leaning on the head of foot rail. Not to mention all the other oddball and goofy stuff that goes on in pool rooms.
Not checking the bolts on the end sills is also part of the issue. Making sure they are tight from the get go will go a long way!!!
I still say 90% of what you guys are calling "design" flaws I call either a bad install or POOR MAINTENANCE. 52 Gold Crown restorations to date. I get none of these complaints.
Trent from Toledo :thumbup:
I got two cuts from the main action GC at Red Shoes. One just wouldn’t stop bleeding.
I’ve played on plenty of Diamonds all over the country and have never seen one hop. I have seen plenty of Brunswick’s hop.
Again, because someone who did the cushion work got the nose height wrong, how is this a design flaw?
It simply is not.
Trent from Toledo
