Hint, there is usually a line at the bar with APA in the morning hours. :thumbup:
Yet another difference is that the BCA seems to be using Diamond tables rather than Valley.
Hint, there is usually a line at the bar with APA in the morning hours. :thumbup:
I've been a friend of Sean's for years and can say unequivocally that he would never be associated with cheating at pool in any form.
I didn't read this entire thread but whatever Sean's role was, non-player, friend of the team, cheerleader, it doesn't really matter as far as believe-ability in what he says. If Sean is telling how things went, you should believe him.
It does sound crappy how things went for this team, imo.
I played APA league for just a couple of sessions many years ago and when I was asked to dumb-down my play a few times, I knew I wasn't gonna be involved for long.
best,
brian kc
another difference: There are also players at the tables at the APA event
Yeah, no players at the BCA tournaments. 80 tables, and over 2400 entries (at a REGIONAL). None whatsoever......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHHa6m6YuDw
Life lesson: Before you open your mouth to spew smartass bullshit, you might want to consider the possibility that there is evidence out there that proves you wrong. :thumbup:
2400, That’s pretty good, I hear it’s a fine event. That’s almost 20% of the amount at the
APA event and close to 1/4 the tables.
I imagine on a percentage basis the amount of drunks is close to the the same.
I’m sure there is the evidence you speak of, but it’s not in that photo.
You’d do well to heed your life lesson, I can also take a photo of a closed and empty bar:thumbup:
As I said, this was a REGIONAL tournament, not nationals.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it?
I posted a short video of a slower time in the tournament room (singles as opposed to teams).
The level of dumbfookery on this forum is amazing sometimes.
Your best move at this point would be to leave the cork on the fork and enjoy your applesauce. :thumbup:
Well Chuck....
Leave the cork on the fork, what does that mean?
I’m sure someone will send along the pre-edited version, after reading it a couple of times I figured what you have likely figured
by now, you just ain’t worth it.
I like your style, it’s a bit infantile, but good, clever
I guess my question is this:
If the team had a “we don’t give a flip” attitude about whooping everyone, and acknowledged it would make it tougher to get to Vegas...why didn’t they self declare at higher skill lvls once they made it? If they knew Ariah was playing so great, and if any had been to Vegas before to see the eqmt difference, it is their responsibility to proactively announce themselves at a higher lvl.
By the way, I applaud their attitude and approach to the league ( I LOATHE SANDBAGGERS!!), but I think they made a mistake here and got caught in the rule. (and i am from Georgia, nearby the poolhall of the team that won after the DQ)
That whole bullshit post is the equivalent of telling the police officer that you couldn’t help doing 70 in a 55 because the road was so straight and smooth so you shouldn’t give me a ticket! The cop doesn’t care and still gives you the ticket..
You broke the rule..whether it was on purpose or just bad luck you still broke it. The Apa Enforced their rule. Bu bye..go play some where else.
The issue is that we have no visibility into what the stats that the LO sees as far as whether, say, our "5" is ready to go up to a 6. How are we supposed to know/ask for borderline players to be manually moved up to the next skill level?
Yes, I agree that our good intentions got us caught in the system. What this post and discussion is supposed to do is enlighten people that we are NOT sandbaggers.
-Sean
This could have simply been an oversight by the team captain. It happened to me a while back at LTC's. Had a 3 moved up to a 4 during the tourney and it kept us from being able to stay within the 23 point limit. I was disappointed, but mostly I felt I let my team down as a captain. Now, I can tell you every team members w/l record, handicap, MVP standing, average points earned per match, and I always keep a close tab on average innings per match.
Point is, now I am much more equipped to know when one of my players is in position to potentially rank up. The difference is that many people start to sandbag, I simply request my LO to move them up for the tourney if possible. Maybe the team captain will use this as a learning opportunity. good luck and I hate that you guys used so much time and resources on this unfortunate scenario.
Well Chuck....
Leave the cork on the fork, what does that mean?
I’m sure someone will send along the pre-edited version, after reading it a couple of times I figured what you have likely figured
by now, you just ain’t worth it.
I like your style, it’s a bit infantile, but good, clever
I haven’t seen too many people calling you guys cheaters/baggers. Mostly i see people just acknowledging that the written rule was broken. But they aren’t making a judgement beyond that. I know I am not judging you...just stating that it is unfortunate that the rule was brokenThank you, jokrswylde. I know the captain is absorbing what happened, and he and the LO are working behind the scenes to help the National office understand what happened.
As for the the time and resources working on this, it's actually well worth it for folks to understand as well what happened, instead of "Five Ball Combo are a bunch of sandbaggers, broke the rules, and deserve to be DQ'ed/2-yr-banned/LO-fined."
Thanks again for the understanding and the commiserating,
-Sean
As for the the time and resources working on this, it's actually well worth it for folks to understand as well what happened, instead of "Five Ball Combo are a bunch of sandbaggers, broke the rules, and deserve to be DQ'ed/2-yr-banned/LO-fined."
-Sean