Banking The CTE Way On A Diamond Table

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lfigueroa said:
I have just recently said I play way better now than I did at anytime previously in my life.

My current self could give my younger self a significant spot at any game.

One pocket would be true. But you did win the 8-ball state title in Montana? as a younger man. What have you won recently? Anything?

In my approach to playing pool I have always been willing to dismantle what I'm doing and change it in the search for improvement. Sometimes, perhaps most times, that doesn't work out so good, but occasionally it does and when it does I build on those experiences.

I'd say that's a good thing.

Undoubtably, there are players, perhaps the majority, whose skills decline with age but I'm not one of those guys and Stan isn't either. And I suspect that comes from constantly studying the game, albeit in our own different ways. In his case it likely stems from delving into his system, which has maintained his focus and led to sustained, if not improved play.

I'd say that's pretty true. But you can't be homed in on a crappy system or way of playing and get excellent results. Garbage in = garbage out.
And I can tell you with 100% truth and accuracy he IS committed to the study and execution of CTE and has been for the last 14 years. He uses it on every shot. That really will become evident in the book and new Truth Series Videos. It is NOT garbage.

The truth is most players just play the way they play with little introspection and self awareness. But that's not everybody.

Lou Figueroa
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I go along with that and agree.
 
Dan White said:
#5 checking in. :grin:

Let's say Spider is right. Stan's 60+ year love affair with banks has nothing to do with his ability to run 12 banks in a row. Stan used CTE to pocket those balls (with an extremely well disguised pivot, I might add). The inference that Spider wants to draw is that CTE is responsible for the banking success, not Stan, per se.

What can we predict from the above? Well, it seems that anybody well versed in CTE Pro1 should also be capable of running 12 in a row, even someone who has never played banks at all. Why didn't Spider post a video of himself running 12 banks? Other names that quickly come to mind are cookie and mohrt.

How 'bout it guys?

(Oh, and a number of those banks were made with significant amounts of english, which I thought was something a guy playing with feel might do).
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Ah Dan putting the spin on it. The challenge was made by Spidey, accept it or move along.
PS you do it first then maybe i'll try it. Dan's MO
 
Dan White said:
Learn CTE from Stan and you, too, can bank like Stan*.
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* Stan has been banking for over 60 years but he thew all that skill away and he's using only CTE now. If you believe that is possible you are either gullible or you're an $%^%$.
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I not only believe it, I know it for a fact, so that only makes you the a$$.
 
straightline said:
It's your contention. The burden of proof is on you. So far all you got is insults.

As far as learning from those videos, CTE or otherwise, all they demonstrate are the highest percentage shots that anyone can make.

That's typical of a hack player like yourself. High percentage shots aren't sitting there for the taking with a full rack of balls all over the table. It involves something foreign to your game and brain. Those shots seemed to be "ducks" because Stan moved the CB around the table after every shot to get the correct angle on the next few balls in a row. Something you can't conceive doing on your own. It reminds me of a story I heard a long time ago when some hack amateur got taken for a ride money wise by Buddy Hall. After losing, a friend asked him what happened. The guy who lost said, "he's the luckiest player I've ever seen play. Every shot he had was just about straight in."

That would be YOU!

I don't have the time or sense of amusement to be strung along. I'd rather continue developing and perfecting what I already know.
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Another total waste of space member who should be in some other forum other than pool.

You remind me of another member who used to be here and got banned. I wonder if you're back under another screen name.

Either way...totally a waste.

But you do have a good idea...stick to what you know and what you do. Best to stay out of something not worth while. BYE-BYE. (you are a man of your word, aren't you? I guess we'll find out)
 
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lfigueroa said:
No of course not -- I'm playing better now than I've ever played in spite of bad knees and cataracts.
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Is this from the same guy that didn't want a re match with John because he needed a walker to get around the table, because his knees were so bad.
 
lfigueroa said:
I have just recently said I play way better now than I did at anytime previously in my life.

My current self could give my younger self a significant spot at any game.

In my approach to playing pool I have always been willing to dismantle what I'm doing and change it in the search for improvement. Sometimes, perhaps most times, that doesn't work out so good, but occasionally it does and when it does I build on those experiences.

Undoubtably, there are players, perhaps the majority, whose skills decline with age but I'm not one of those guys and Stan isn't either. And I suspect that comes from constantly studying the game, albeit in our own different ways. In his case it likely stems from delving into his system, which has maintained his focus and led to sustained, if not improved play.

The truth is most players just play the way they play with little introspection and self awareness. But that's not everybody.

Lou Figueroa
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Is this from the same guy that didn't want a re match with John because he needed a walker to get around the table, because his knees were so bad.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I go along with that and agree.
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The 8ball was against a field of amateurs -- I haven't played 8ball in years.

I did win a 1pocket tournament here in St. Louis with guys like Tom Ferry and Mark Wilson in it; I've won a couple of Red Shoes events up in Chicago with guys like Larry Nevel, Piggy Banks and Mark Jarvis in them; lately I tied for 5/6th at a one pocket.org soiree and I cashed in the sixth round of the DCC 1pocket this year.

Not bad for an old guy who plays a few hours every week.

Lou Figueroa
 
cookie man said:
Is this from the same guy that didn't want a re match with John because he needed a walker to get around the table, because his knees were so bad.
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At the time I walked with a limp and the ortho doc was draining over 20cc of fluid from my knees every three months and then shooting them up with a cortisone cocktail. That pretty much went on for two years because one knee was bad with a meniscus tear and then the other one went with the same issue.

Not a problem now ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
The 8ball was against a field of amateurs -- I haven't played 8ball in years.

Which you were and have always called yourself an amateur and not a pro.

I did win a 1pocket tournament here in St. Louis with guys like Tom Ferry and Mark Wilson in it; I've won a couple of Red Shoes events up in Chicago with guys like Larry Nevel, Piggy Banks and Mark Jarvis in them; lately I tied for 5/6th at a one pocket.org soiree and I cashed in the sixth round of the DCC 1pocket this year.

Not bad for an old guy who plays a few hours every week.

Lou Figueroa
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One pocket proficiency extends the lifespan of a pool player because of the knowledge and thought processes to outsmart the other player. It's not break and runout like 9 ball or 10 ball with young hotshots who will do that rack after rack.

Try to qualify for the US Amateur later this year and see how you fare with 9 ball and 8 ball. (if we all still aren't on lockdown)

You might not even qualify.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Another total waste of space member who should be in some other forum other than pool.

You remind me of another member who used to be here and got banned. I wonder if you're back under another screen name.

Either way...totally a waste.

But you do have a good idea...stick to what you know and what you do. Best to stay out of something not worth while. BYE-BYE. (you are a man of your word, aren't you? I guess we'll find out)
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Pretty convenient. I don't use ignore. I'll still be paying attention in case something tangible gets posted. I'll say what I do is improve my skills. What you do here seems to be troll under the pretense of CTE which for some strange reason is looking more and more like some kind of pretense in and of itself. Anyway, you really should post a video of you demonstrating your contentions. If you are physically unable I apologize.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
One pocket proficiency extends the lifespan of a pool player because of the knowledge and thought processes to outsmart the other player. It's not break and runout like 9 ball or 10 ball with young hotshots who will do that rack after rack.

Try to qualify for the US Amateur later this year and see how you fare with 9 ball and 8 ball. (if we all still aren't on lockdown)

You might not even qualify.
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You're not much of a 1pocket player, are you.

Yes, knowledge is important at 1pocket but inevitably there come moments in every match when you have to execute. And not just a shot but a run -- all to one pocket. That is not so easy.

I learned that over the course of several US One Pocket Opens, when I would trade a series of safeties with a pro and even occasionally beat them to the first shot but then couldn't execute and get full mileage out of the opportunity.

Too many guys still think of 1pocket as a game where you just bunt the balls up table. And maybe watching guys at your local room who have played the same way for decades enforces that. But out there in the real world, it ain't like that anymore, if it ever really was.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
You're not much of a 1pocket player, are you.

If based on my record against Hopkins, no. With others, you learn a lot from losing and watching a world champion play and can hold my own with most everyone. It does sink in.

Yes, knowledge is important at 1pocket but inevitably there come moments in every match when you have to execute. And not just a shot but a run -- all to one pocket. That is not so easy.

Of course it isn't.

I learned that over the course of several US One Pocket Opens, when I would trade a series of safeties with a pro and even occasionally beat them to the first shot but then couldn't execute and get full mileage out of the opportunity.

Too many guys still think of 1pocket as a game where you just bunt the balls up table. And maybe watching guys at your local room who have played the same way for decades enforces that. But out there in the real world, it ain't like that anymore, if it ever really was.

Lou Figueroa
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True. All I'm saying is like all games there's an offense and defense.
It's just a different offense and defense as far as when you use it which you alluded to with 1 pocket as opposed to fast pace do or die rotation games.
Fargo rate isn't kept for 1 pocket.
 
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