Using "Center Ball" - is it good advice or a hidden disadvantage?
- Thread starter CJ Wiley
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It has never interested me.
Races are too short.
It is a crap shoot with dramatic flair.
In this format with tv time limitations short races are the norm. You have to play good right out of the gate or you get beat. I've watched a bunch of them and pure luck has not been that big of a factor. Best player/team wins about every time. Pressure is brutal. Seen WORLD CHAMPIONS dog it under this kinda heat.
Thank you for taking so much effort into explaining. It is not everyday you get to get instruction from a true master of the game
And?
Are you saying a World Champion is not the “better player” because he lost a short race?
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Not disagreeing, but I'd like to play you on my oversize 8 olhausen. Middle of pocket at an angle is between the point and where the facing you can see intersects the "hole" of the pocket. Now that I gave my secret though, I don't think I want to play for money!
Center of pocket can change a bit depending on equipment, not trying to be pedantic, just offering a bit of extra info.
You can't see the perspective of the object ball to center, that's why Johnny Archer steps over to look at that specific perspective sometimes.
I remember, we were sitting in our suite at the 2012 Mosconi Cup and I ask Johnny why he did that?!?
He answered "to give my subconscious another perspective of the shot"
"so you don't. look at a contact point, or bring back to your shooting position anything to aim at?"
"No"
The Game is the Teacher
The races are short, the table is soft, and it is designed to be a show. It's still really good for pool, back in the 90s pool was on ESPN every week and we pulled a million+ viewers average per episode. Players didn't realize how much value that gave them, the game, and their endorsement opportunities. If a company knows you might get on ESPN they will pay many times more to make sure you use their product.
The American team have their hands full, that's for sure, however, I know it will be close, and could go either way the last day.
All you have to do is set up a spot shot and from your vantage point try to see the center relative to the object ball. It's obviously impossible and as you move the object ball further down it gets even more ludicrous to see the center from the object ball's perspective. That's why some players go look at the shot from the object ball, I don't recommend that, it's not necessary if you use the aiming/playing system I recommend.Not disagreeing, but I'd like to play you on my oversize 8 olhausen. Middle of pocket at an angle is between the point and where the facing you can see intersects the "hole" of the pocket. Now that I gave my secret though, I don't think I want to play for money!
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Only if you're rolling it in super softly and want to flirt with the death rattle!
The center of the pocket mouth is visible from everywhere on the table. What does “the center relative to the object ball” mean?
pj
chgo
The center relative to the object ball means from the perspective of the object ball where is the center of the pocket. I'm pretty sure you weren't thinking the center from the perspective of the cueball, if that's the case it explains why you are so confused about this topic.
Like I said in one of my last posts, set up a spot shot, with the cueball behind the line - now look at the center of the designated pocket from the perspective of the object ball.....it's not possible. To make it even more difficult, move the cue ball down 12 inches and try it again.....even more visually impossible.
Now, in comparison, do what I am suggesting, look at the left side of the pocket, the point is a precise reference. You can see this from the vantage point of the cueball, because the point of the side, or corner pocket is fixed, the center of the pocket is Not fixed because it's always congruent with the position of the object ball, relative to the cueball.
The warrior Road Players used to say "$hooting $oftly AND for $ides is for $uckers!"Only if you're rolling it in super softly and want to flirt with the death rattle!
Playing in perfect conditions with fast cloth doesn't punish players for "slow rolling" shots like it does in pool room conditions, with tables that usually have a slight drift, and cloth that is worn. Back in the days when gambling was popular all over this country, the places you had to perform to win the tens of thousands were virtually always tricky/gaffed up.
There was one table at a pool room that had BIG ACTION that they actually had "JUICED UP" with an electromagnetic component.....this is information Ill take to the grave, out of respect for the people involved. I will say they tried it on me and I still beat them, I hit everything FIRM with the Touch of Inside, so magnetic energy had no effect of my object all placement.
The Game is the Teacher
The center of the pocket's mouth is the same viewed from either ball's position - and from everywhere else on the table. That's what makes it the best "center" for aiming purposes.
I agree there's some confusion... we might differ on whose it is.
pj
chgo
So the center of the pocket is the same for an object ball on the cushion as it is for the object ball on the spot? LoL - Wow, you need to reevaluate your position, it's not realistic on a real pool table, maybe somehow on a video version, but I doubt it!
CJ,
He is a Pool Scientist.
Do not question pool scientists.
Just agree with them, spot them, and take their money.
