With people social distancing and staying home, the flu is hard to catch--it only flourishes when we are acting "normal".
Pool Tournaments During COVID Pandemic
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Most viruses damage DNA in order to take over the cell building machinery and make more copies of themselves.
Those that permantly damage the DNA are killed off by taking a snippet of invading DNA/RNA and placing peculuar gene boundaries around them so the cell defense mechanisms react when they run inot that strand of DNA again. The Can9 protien can then sniff out the attacker before it takes over. That is called immunity.
And you didn't wear a mask to avoid it.
Not worried about me. Worried about you infecting my family. Not to mention the rest of the population. The more you can spread it without a mask, the greater likelihood it will hit someone I care about. That's my business. I'm asking you to take care of yours by exercising basic courtesy and responsibility for the safety of all of us.
He is suggesting that RNA from COVID actually enters the nucleus of the cell and permanently modifies your DNA...Sorry but can't happen
There is one way that RNA could change genes, and that’s through an enzyme called reverse transcriptase, which generates complementary DNA (cDNA) from a viral RNA template. However, reverse transcriptase does not exist in humans except in the presence of retroviruses like HIV. In that case, it’s using its own viral RNA template, not just pulling random mRNA out of the cell. It wants the cell to produce a bunch of new retroviruses by hijacking the DNA.
SARS-CoV-2 is not a retrovirus. The difference is how they replicate within a host.
Human Gene Sequences in SARS-CoV-2 and Other Viruses
In a previous study, we identified a 117 base severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) sequence in the human genome with 94.6% identity. The sequence was in chromosome 1p within an intronic region of the netrin G1 (NTNG1) gene. The sequence matched a sequence in the...
iv.iiarjournals.org
Only six retroviruses are known to infect humans:
HIV 1
HIV 2
HTLV 1
HTLV 2
HTLV 3
HTLV 4
Human retroviruses | Division of Medical Virology
The reason those people tested positive for HIV (false positive) is the researchers used a fragment of an HIV protein to stabilize the vaccine. I have no Idea why they chose that protein, but I am sure they a kicking themselves now.
Global Newsroom | CSL
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We have already been through that mRNA vaccines can't modify a persons DNA...I personally don't want to rehash that, but I will if I have to.
Jesus Christ, I have said at least 3 different times during this thread that I wear a mask pretty much all day every day. I am simply against the government being able to mandate them in privately owned businesses such as a pool hall. If a privately owned business decides that they won't require masks, then you have a very easy choice to make as far as patronizing the business. Just as an anti- masker can certainly choose to stay out of a business that requires them.
If you think the the federal government needs more control in our lives, more say so in how we conduct ourselves in a private establishment, then we truly have no common ground from which to work. We can agree to disagree.
You don't get it. Of course all agree to do what you can to avoid getting it. But the fact is, mask, distance, whatever...including shut-downs are only delaying the inevitable AT BEST. Vaccines, way too early to tell both the effectiveness and the side effects. The people "dying" as unfortunate as that is, all have a few things in common. Mostly elderly and going to pass soon anyway. No one supports a cavalier attitude about that but people are taking many stats WAY out of context relative to the facts. And the Mask Bandits ignore the deaths and misery caused by the shut downs, prohibitions and mask nazi's.
I wear a mask too in stores, etc. Not sure why virtue signalers all have to make these discussions about all or nothing. Not sure wearing one keeps ME safer though. And while we're at it - let's define MASK. Sorry...your bandana don't do shit.
He is suggesting that RNA from COVID actually enters the nucleus of the cell and permanently modifies your DNA...Sorry but can't happen
There is one way that RNA could change genes, and that’s through an enzyme called reverse transcriptase, which generates complementary DNA (cDNA) from a viral RNA template. However, reverse transcriptase does not exist in humans except in the presence of retroviruses like HIV. In that case, it’s using its own viral RNA template, not just pulling random mRNA out of the cell. It wants the cell to produce a bunch of new retroviruses by hijacking the DNA.
SARS-CoV-2 is not a retrovirus. The difference is how they replicate within a host.
Human Gene Sequences in SARS-CoV-2 and Other Viruses
In a previous study, we identified a 117 base severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) sequence in the human genome with 94.6% identity. The sequence was in chromosome 1p within an intronic region of the netrin G1 (NTNG1) gene. The sequence matched a sequence in the...
Only six retroviruses are known to infect humans:
HIV 1
HIV 2
HTLV 1
HTLV 2
HTLV 3
HTLV 4
Human retroviruses | Division of Medical Virology
www.virology.uct.ac.za
The reason those people tested positive for HIV (false positive) is the researchers used a fragment of an HIV protein to stabilize the vaccine. I have no Idea why they chose that protein, but I am sure they a kicking themselves now.
Global Newsroom | CSL
We have already been through that mRNA vaccines can't modify a persons DNA...I personally don't want to rehash that, but I will if I have to.
That guy in the video is referring to a study conducted and the conclusions of the study. His assumption is that if COVID can result in adding a DNA segment to a person's DNA, that in order for the mRNA vaccines to work, that it would need to correct or remove the added DNA segment. I personally think that I a huge stretch.
That guy is saying that there are 18 different HIV segments in the COVID virus and that the process that you outlined is what is happening to modify DNA. I haven't looked into obtaining the study he is referring to. I just thought that what he presented was interesting.
One thing to keep in mind is that you don't know for sure what the virus or the vaccine can or can't do until more studies are done. We can only speculate based on what we know at this time. More studies are needed to sort things out IMO.
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He is suggesting that RNA from COVID actually enters the nucleus of the cell and permanently modifies your DNA...Sorry but can't happen
There is one way that RNA could change genes, and that’s through an enzyme called reverse transcriptase, which generates complementary DNA (cDNA) from a viral RNA template. However, reverse transcriptase does not exist in humans except in the presence of retroviruses like HIV. In that case, it’s using its own viral RNA template, not just pulling random mRNA out of the cell. It wants the cell to produce a bunch of new retroviruses by hijacking the DNA.
SARS-CoV-2 is not a retrovirus. The difference is how they replicate within a host.
Human Gene Sequences in SARS-CoV-2 and Other Viruses
In a previous study, we identified a 117 base severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) sequence in the human genome with 94.6% identity. The sequence was in chromosome 1p within an intronic region of the netrin G1 (NTNG1) gene. The sequence matched a sequence in the...
Only six retroviruses are known to infect humans:
HIV 1
HIV 2
HTLV 1
HTLV 2
HTLV 3
HTLV 4
Human retroviruses | Division of Medical Virology
The reason those people tested positive for HIV (false positive) is the researchers used a fragment of an HIV protein to stabilize the vaccine. I have no Idea why they chose that protein, but I am sure they a kicking themselves now.
Global Newsroom | CSL
We have already been through that mRNA vaccines can't modify a persons DNA...I personally don't want to rehash that, but I will if I have to.
I should mention one other thing. When I worked in CMC the first time I was requested by a European country to provide them with a statement certifying that no nano particulates were added to the drug, I was really scratching my head.
It's the first time that I had heard of nano particles being used. This country was obviously concerned and viewed it as a real threat that companies might be adding nano particles to their drugs.
So when rumors arise now about companies nefariously adding nano particles to drugs, I no longer view that as a wild conspiracy theory.
We will only really know what is in these vaccines if independent labs conduct studies and publish their findings.
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surlytempo
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last I checked, privately owned businesses were still required to be in compliance with various federal, state, and municipal bodies in order to legally operate. Being a private owned business does not somehow let you pick and choose which government mandated rules you want to follow.
You want "ridiculous" -- try a guy in his basement in front of a green screen making YouTube videos, referring to an article from a Bulgarian financed far-right libertarian web site.
Are we suppose to take this seriously?
Lou Figueroa
last I checked, privately owned businesses were still required to be in compliance with various federal, state, and municipal bodies in order to legally operate. Being a private owned business does not somehow let you pick and choose which government mandated rules you want to follow.
Last I checked, I never said they weren't required to be in compliance. I swear I think you are arguing just to argue. I simply said I am against MORE federal intrusion into private lives. I am out. I have a teenager at home that would argue with stop sign, I don't humor her either.
Have a Merry Christmas all. Stay safe!
LOL.
Give me a narrative and I'll find an "expert" that supports it.
There is some homology between HIV-1 and SARS-CoV-1. I am sure there are some homologies to other viruses as well. Those type of sequence analyses can be performed relatively quickly. I tried for an hour to try to find that study before I responded, but was unable to locate it.
Cloaked similarity between HIV-1 and SARS-CoV suggests an anti-SARS strategy
Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is a febrile respiratory illness. The disease has been etiologically linked to a novel coronavirus that has been named the SARS-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV), whose genome was recently sequenced. Since it is ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
HIV-1 did not contribute to the 2019-nCoV genome
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Regulatory agencies are now asking for all kinds of statements like that. Nitrosoamines are now a big one and for good reason. I personally haven't come across a nanoparticle statement though.
Nitrosamine contamination withdrawals spread to new drugs
After ranitidine recalls, EU regulators instruct companies to review all their products for potential impurities
You are right, some parts of the formulation are protected. The only way to know is to perform a deformulation. There are companies out there that specialize in this.
You think that rights are bestowed upon you by a government? That is a misguided and downright scary way to default to be thinking about rights.
There are two basic kinds of rights. The first are those you are born with by nature of being a human being (albeit one who lives around other human beings with rights too) and they are inherent and inalienable. They exist independent from any government and are your primary or true or fundamental rights. The other kind are your legal rights, as in what some government has decided they think your rights should be.
The two rarely align perfectly, and with some governments they don't align much at all which is why you can never only consider legal rights. What is important is that you know the difference and default to thinking about your rights in terms of what they inherently are and with the legal rights being the secondary consideration. Because of possible repercussions you of course also have to consider what your legally bestowed rights are as well, but those aren't your true rights, and shouldn't be what you default to, at least not exclusively, when you think about what your rights are and should be.
Governments, including the US government, infringe on rights all the time. Some governments don't even consider the right to life, which I think all of humanity would pretty much agree to be the single most important and fundamental basic right we have, to truly be an inalienable right as evidenced by all the hundreds of millions of people who have been murdered by governments because of their ethnicity or political views or any number of other reasons. Governments don't do a great job of getting rights right. Surely you can see that your government bestowed rights aren't the primary and certainly not the exclusive way you should be thinking about rights because they exist independent from any government.
Anyway, while I think I was considering both to some extent at the time, my post was probably coming a bit more from the perspective of your inalienable rights because that should usually be the more primary context used when considering rights, and you seem to have taken it as a purely legal argument.
surlytempo
Member
there are no such things such as natural or inalienable rights beyond the basic tenet of agreements they're formed upon. these are enlightenment era concepts not fundamental laws of the universe. and they could hardly be considered universal in any meaningful way. there has never existed a free association of men that did not take exception to such ideals in western or eastern philosophy that I can recall. all rights are capable of being abridged to one extent or another. more simply, whatever right you possess, you possess not because you give it to yourself, but because the society you live in believes that you should have it.
You don't even believe the nonsense that you wrote so I'm not sure why you wrote it. Everybody believes in fundamental inalienable rights although there is disagreement on exactly what those are.
Anybody who accepts that the rights "given" to you by a government are the only rights that exist is an idiot and a subject who will forever be controlled in any way their government desires without opposition and will deserve every bit of the violation and mistreatment they will almost certainly get as a result. Two seconds of contemplation on the topic would quickly reveal how flawed and idiotic your thinking is.
surlytempo
Member
lmao. you forgot yourself already huh?
A page or two ago you were preaching about balancing of interests and understanding the other side, preaching about coming together and understanding with compromise and wisdom. And now you can't even grapple with the fact that someone disagrees with your point of view, so you've become unhinged and lash out, accusing anyone who doesn't see it your way as being trapped, subject to and deserving of the inevitable mistreatment that will surely befall them.. all because they simply do not see it your way. bro, your mind is a farce. get over yourself.