Is there another style of shaft than Pool style?
Best Affordable Cuemakers today?
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Carom style for one.
Jeff Olney, if you can find one for sale on the secondary market. You can get a lot of cue for $1K. He told me he's not taking orders anymore. https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/lets-see-your-jeff-olney-cues.330310/
Garten Bierbower makes the best "Old School" steel jointed cues I've ever had. Pretty sure you can get him to make you a Merry Widow style in that price range and a 4 point, four veneer style will push you a little over a grand. You won't have to wait long for a cue from Garten. www.BierbowerCues.com
Someone mentioned Bob Dzurecki "DZ" cues. I don't think you can go wrong there.
Garten Bierbower makes the best "Old School" steel jointed cues I've ever had. Pretty sure you can get him to make you a Merry Widow style in that price range and a 4 point, four veneer style will push you a little over a grand. You won't have to wait long for a cue from Garten. www.BierbowerCues.com
Someone mentioned Bob Dzurecki "DZ" cues. I don't think you can go wrong there.
well, you see, there was a post that said you used to be able to buy a quality cue for cheap, then another that said "MMMMKAY", like that didn't exist. I merely pointed out that it was true with my personal experience. Not that hard to follow and understand. Sorry to offend your sensibilities by making a post that was relevant to the thread.
Just pointing out that it was possible to buy a quality cue for a good price in the past. Sorry your Black cue didn't meet your requirements. I guess they can't all be gems. Mine plays as well as any cue I have ever held.
Same cue would be around $800 today.
Considering inflation, that wouldn't be cheap.well, you see, there was a post that said you used to be able to buy a quality cue for cheap, then another that said "MMMMKAY", like that didn't exist. I merely pointed out that it was true with my personal experience. Not that hard to follow and understand. Sorry to offend your sensibilities by making a post that was relevant to the thread.
If your post is relevant to this thread, I guess we should be discussing the price of corvettes in this thread also.
Just because something is mentioned in a thread, it doesn't make it relative to the topic.
Looking forward to more of your posts
I find it hard to believe a Richard Black merry widow would be $800 today, you have to take into account his reputation now compared to 1993.
Although I would agree Richard's merry widow built now would only be worth ~ $800 lol. Some of the absolute worst inlay work I've ever seen BAR NONE
$300 in 1993 adjusted for inflation to 2020 is $540.27, still on the low side of the OP's request. The lowest-priced cue on Richard Black's website is currently $1800, but at his age, I suspect he wouldn't turn on the lathe for less than a full custom. The hall of fame induction was after I purchased the cue, so yeah, his reputation and prices both increased.
well, since mine has no inlay work at all, just BEM butt, linen wrap, and ivory ferrule, I suppose it is worth more. The resale market puts it currently at $1500 - $2000, not that pricy for a hall of fame builder's cue.
I'll try hard after this post to let you have the last word, and am assuming that you will be arguing about this information as well. You seem to have some strange need to be the final authority on this. Have a wonderful day!
My first Black cue, the four-pointer he made for me in 1978, may have been the best playing cue I ever had.
I talked to Richard about a year ago to maybe have him make me another shaft. He told me that HE was not touching anything under $5000. His protege makes everything under $5000 now.$300 in 1993 adjusted for inflation to 2020 is $540.27, still on the low side of the OP's request. The lowest-priced cue on Richard Black's website is currently $1800, but at his age, I suspect he wouldn't turn on the lathe for less than a full custom. The hall of fame induction was after I purchased the cue, so yeah, his reputation and prices both increased.
well, since mine has no inlay work at all, just BEM butt, linen wrap, and ivory ferrule, I suppose it is worth more. The resale market puts it currently at $1500 - $2000, not that pricy for a hall of fame builder's cue.
I'll try hard after this post to let you have the last word, and am assuming that you will be arguing about this information as well. You seem to have some strange need to be the final authority on this. Have a wonderful day!
By all means contact Rick Howard,
(1) R.Howard Handcrafted Cues | Facebook
(1) R.Howard Handcrafted Cues | Facebook
Sound advice to get a hold of a few cue makers and see what they have on hand. Indecision will be your worse enemy.
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His protege is Scott Gilmore. (Unfortunately, he has a sparse website and just beginning on social media.) He refinished one of my Richard Blacks when I got my cues out of storage. I played with both of the first two cues he ever made, and the hit is really close to my Bushka Richard made for me in ‘89.
So, I ordered four cues from Scott to have as “house cues”. I provided a limited but reasonable budget. I have the first, and it’s a home run. He is close to finishing the second, so I may post the first two at that time. We had a discussion about an overview of my preferences, but I basically said, “Surprise me.”
He said Richard only gets involved with interesting requests and the starting point is generally a bit more than $5k.
So you're the only one that can respond to a comment?$300 in 1993 adjusted for inflation to 2020 is $540.27, still on the low side of the OP's request. The lowest-priced cue on Richard Black's website is currently $1800, but at his age, I suspect he wouldn't turn on the lathe for less than a full custom. The hall of fame induction was after I purchased the cue, so yeah, his reputation and prices both increased.
well, since mine has no inlay work at all, just BEM butt, linen wrap, and ivory ferrule, I suppose it is worth more. The resale market puts it currently at $1500 - $2000, not that pricy for a hall of fame builder's cue.
I'll try hard after this post to let you have the last word, and am assuming that you will be arguing about this information as well. You seem to have some strange need to be the final authority on this. Have a wonderful day!
If you think a merry widow Richard black is worth $1,500 to $2,000 I don't even know what to say. Did you get that info from the Blue Book?
The fact that a cue builder can put out that kind of inlay work(worst in history) and be in the hall of fame really says something about that honor and the criteria for inclusion.That said, he has some great designs, but wouldn't even be mentioned against today's greats.
Yes, I owned an 80, 81, and 82 RB and I'm not even remotely exaggerating the terrible inlay work. I still have the 80 and its the only one of the 3 that played good, the other 2 were DEAD no matter what shaft I put on the Butt.
OK, I said I would try to let you have the last word and you probably still will, because I tire of this, but I am not sure why you are so condescendingly "holier than thou" in your statements. You seem angry about it, even. I think we all get it, you had bad experiences with and, hate RB cues and I happen to like mine, as many others like theirs. It is OK, that is why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream. People have different preferences. I have not said you are wrong in your opinion, nor have I been rude about it, despite your diatribes.So you're the only one that can respond to a comment?
If you think a merry widow Richard black is worth $1,500 to $2,000 I don't even know what to say. Did you get that info from the Blue Book?
That said, he has some great designs, but wouldn't even be mentioned against today's greats.
Yes, I owned an 80, 81, and 82 RB and I'm not even remotely exaggerating the terrible inlay work. I still have the 80 and its the only one of the 3 that played good, the other 2 were DEAD no matter what shaft I put on the Butt.
I never said that only I can respond, I even said you could have the last word on this. You, on the other hand, said that my post was unnecessary, off-topic, and wrong. I didn't realize that I had ventured into a world of your control and needed your approval to have an opinion or present actual facts.
The prices I mentioned are actual sales that I have seen in person and on resale and auction websites. Actual selling prices, not asking prices. Maybe I live in a world or RB fanboys or something, but facts are facts and these are actual sales for actual U.S. dollars.
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