Is Schmidt's and charlie 626 Legit

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Trying to catch up here....

There is a video of the event.
Its been viewed by the governing body and declared legit.
The video is currently available for private viewing and has ben seen by many.
The video is not available for sale.

There are those that claim the video is doctored.
There are those that claim there were fouls committed.
Those people have not seen the video.


My question is …..has anyone watched the video and made a specific claim about why the run is fraudulent.
 
It's cute when people come into this thread and think they can resolve everything with a little rational logic.

Rational thought and objective reasoning have no place here. Just make up stuff that might have happened and spit it out.

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logical said:
It's cute when people come into this thread and think they can resolve everything with a little rational logic.

Rational thought and objective reasoning have no place here. Just make up stuff that might have happened and spit it out.

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True...but its a shame when folks have to be informed that logic and reasoning don't really apply in this instance.
 
gerryf said:
Schmidt also had signed witness statements. The BCA must have considered the video to be icing on the cake to the witness statements.

If 'prominent' members of the billiards community like Nick Varner and many others (who have 14.1 bona fides) thought it was a good run, I wouldn't argue with that. The current 14.1 champions also seem to be happy that Schmidt had a great run. (Schmidt already has many runs over 400, so of all the people in the world likely to break Mosconi's run, Schmidt was a likely person to do it.)

After Schmidt's run of public presentation, it doesn't sound like there's any doubt that he ran 626 balls, except for maybe a few fringe players with personal axes to grind.

Schmidt currently has the official BCA record, and that's not disputed.

Some people seem to feel that Schmidt's exhibition run, while longer than Mosconi's, was of a lesser quality because Schmidt made a targeted series of attempts over a number of weeks, rather than just going to a pool hall and doing a run. That's not a big deal for me.
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Who knows about the two guys at the BCA.

And from all accounts, the public viewings hav been entertainment events and not careful reviews.

Lou Figueroa
 
Cuedup said:
Trying to catch up here....

There is a video of the event.
Its been viewed by the governing body and declared legit.
The video is currently available for private viewing and has ben seen by many.
The video is not available for sale.

There are those that claim the video is doctored.
There are those that claim there were fouls committed.
Those people have not seen the video.


My question is …..has anyone watched the video and made a specific claim about why the run is fraudulent.
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There is video of the event but it has never been publicly released for careful review.

Two guys at the BCA with questionable 14.1 credentials saw it in some form or another.
The video has not been made available for private viewing but rather public screenings.
No one has claimed the video has been doctored.
No one has claimed fouls were committed.

Lou Figueroa
 
logical said:
It's cute when people come into this thread and think they can resolve everything with a little rational logic.

Rational thought and objective reasoning have no place here. Just make up stuff that might have happened and spit it out.

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Logic is fine.

But it helps if the facts are accurate.

Lou Figueroa
 
Out of the many thousands of people that have viewed the video, not one has made a claim that there was a foul.

One specific claim that at ball # ??? that so and so happened which should invalidate the previous validation is all it would take. Yet there has not been a single substantial claim.
 
Cuedup said:
Out of the many thousands of people that have viewed the video, not one has made a claim that there was a foul.

One specific claim that at ball # ??? that so and so happened which should invalidate the previous validation is all it would take. Yet there has not been a single substantial claim.
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People are watching it with Diet Cokes and Bud Lights in their hand, eating chili fries, schmoozing with JS and others, and taking bathroom breaks.

From all accounts, they are seeing a produced video with music and voice over and are not carefully watching original, raw, unedited video.

And claiming "many thousands... have viewed the video" is, without a doubt, a wild exaggeration.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
There is video of the event but it has never been publicly released for careful review.

Two guys at the BCA with questionable 14.1 credentials saw it in some form or another.
The video has not been made available for private viewing but rather public screenings.
No one has claimed the video has been doctored.
No one has claimed fouls were committed.

Lou Figueroa
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Please...

The folks at the bca have "actual authority" to speak for the bca.

There is no public entitlement to the video.

There have been claims the video was doctored.

There have been claims of errors (fouls) that claimants would certainly use to invalidate the 626.
 
Cuedup said:
Out of the many thousands of people that have viewed the video, not one has made a claim that there was a foul.

One specific claim that at ball # ??? that so and so happened which should invalidate the previous validation is all it would take. Yet there has not been a single substantial claim.
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But but but...john offended.
 
Black-Balled said:
Please...

The folks at the bca have "actual authority" to speak for the bca.

There is no public entitlement to the video.

There have been claims the video was doctored.

There have been claims of errors (fouls) that claimants would certainly use to invalidate the 626.
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puhleeese.

The guys at the BCA sell hot tubs and run race tracks. And of course there's no entitlement to the video -- but then, there is no universal acceptance of the record either. And you're right, there have been claims, so I will correct myself to say that almost no one claims otherwise.

Lou Figueroa
 
"People are watching it with Diet Cokes and Bud Lights in their hand, eating chili fries, schmoozing with JS and others, and taking bathroom breaks."

….wild exaggeration"

Pot, meet kettle.

You claim that everyone that has viewed the video hasn't paid close attention to it. That, sir, is simply a lie. Its a wild claim. Its an exaggeration used to bolster your bias. You have zero idea about what everyone that went to view the video was watching.
 
BTW, I've heard that another guy just broke JS "record."

But, following suit, he's not releasing unedited video.

Lou Figueroa
 

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Cuedup said:
"People are watching it with Diet Cokes and Bud Lights in their hand, eating chili fries, schmoozing with JS and others, and taking bathroom breaks."

….wild exaggeration"

Pot, meet kettle.

You claim that everyone that has viewed the video hasn't paid close attention to it. That, sir, is simply a lie. Its a wild claim. Its an exaggeration used to bolster your bias. You have zero idea about what everyone that went to view the video was watching.
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I've talked to a couple of folks who have been at the viewings ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Two guys at the BCA with questionable 14.1 credentials saw it in some form or another.

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No one has claimed the video has been doctored.
No one has claimed fouls were committed.

Lou Figueroa
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Were the BCA guys that rubber stamped the Mosconi affidavit forensics trained lawyers?

Have you read any of the last 175 posts from Danny?

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