Is Schmidt's and charlie 626 Legit

Z-Nole

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Another happy customer - he's probly drankin coffee and smokin big cigars. I'm sure they were 'so glad u could attend - move along - move along'. Did they - write' before your eyes - pull laughter - from the sky's? Come and see their show, come and see their show, come and see there schoooooooooooow.
What’s wrong with drinking coffee and smoking big cigars? You making crazy talk now sir
 

lfigueroa

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I know and you know I was just taking a fun jab at you about how you said it. I am well aware of your position on both the former and current record holder...oh, sorry..alleged new record holder.

And you pulled a Danny on me and ignored the first point and pretended the point about table size didn’t even exist.

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What point about table size?

Lou Figueroa
lol, sometimes
I crack myself up
 

lfigueroa

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That's all true, and the deeper you look the cloudier it gets. Mosconi said there were 300 spectators. Thats nonsense, 300 people don't fit around a pool table without bleachers / risers and even if they did they'd need binoculars to see.

But none of that matters if he's your boyhood hero and you never grew up.

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But we don't know about the 300 spectators but it is not only possible but perhaps even likely -- Mosconi was a big star of that era.

Also, keep in mind that back in those days there were a lot of pool rooms that were pretty good sized. Here's one that was in STL around the same time.

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Patrick Johnson

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And thank you for your stellar contributions.
You're welcome.

But seriously (and non-combatively), isn't there a one- or two-sentence synopsis of why the vid reviewers need 14.1 skills so I don't have to wade through the whole thread? I'm honestly interested in your experienced insight.

I assume it's something like there are subtle foul possibilities they might not catch, and not that they're more likely to miss video doctoring. I don't need details, just the drift...

pj
chgo
 

logical

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What point about table size?

Lou Figueroa
lol, sometimes
I crack myself up
You said "we all know it was an 8 foot table". I pointed out that it is pretty well documented and accepted that it was in fact an oversize 8, 8.5 foot.

It isn't the things we dont know that get us in trouble as much as the things we do know that aren't true.
 
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logical

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But we don't know about the 300 spectators but it is not only possible but perhaps even likely -- Mosconi was a big star of that era.

Also, keep in mind that back in those days there were a lot of pool rooms that were pretty good sized. Here's one that was in STL around the same time.

Lou Figueroa
But was the one in Ohio one of them?
I don't doubt 300 people can fit in a room, but even if it was in the middle of an air force hanger, 300 can't get close enough to see much.
 
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gerryf

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I have Mosconi's autobiography, and i reread it to refresh the details.

An interesting quote "...an attorney who prepared an affidavit attesting to the validity of my claim to a new record. A few days later, the BCA gave it its stamp of approval."

So to set a BCA record, it seems that all it takes is an affidavit, and the BCA to review the claim.
 

Black-Balled

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I have Mosconi's autobiography, and i reread it to refresh the details.

An interesting quote "...an attorney who prepared an affidavit attesting to the validity of my claim to a new record. A few days later, the BCA gave it its stamp of approval."

So to set a BCA record, it seems that all it takes is an affidavit, and the BCA to review the claim.
That is only applicable in cases where the new record setter did not throw chalk at you or call you a mexican.
 

Rimfirejunkie

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You're welcome.

But seriously (and non-combatively), isn't there a one- or two-sentence synopsis of why the vid reviewers need 14.1 skills so I don't have to wade through the whole thread? I'm honestly interested in your experienced insight.

I assume it's something like there are subtle foul possibilities they might not catch, and not that they're more likely to miss video doctoring. I don't need details, just the drift...

pj
chgo
That’s the gist of it.
 

gerryf

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But seriously (and non-combatively), isn't there a one- or two-sentence synopsis of why the vid reviewers need 14.1 skills so I don't have to wade through the whole thread? I'm honestly interested in your experienced insight.

I assume it's something like there are subtle foul possibilities they might not catch, and not that they're more likely to miss video doctoring. I don't need details, just the drift...

pj
chgo
It's most likely because the BCA group who reviewed the video weren't 14.1 specialists. If they had been, then the argument would have been that they weren't video-editing specialists. If they had been both 14.1 specialists, and video-editing specialists, then the argument would have been that they weren't 6'3" redheads from Paduca. There's no shortage of problems with any potential reviewer.

The only acceptable reviewer is Willie Mosconi, and until he shows up and gives the run his blessing, it could be fake.
 

logical

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There’s about as much possibility of Willie Mosconi showing up here to give his blessing, as there is that John Schmidt or Doug Desmond, the only two people who were there for the duration of the run, show up here to give their blessing to their claimed run, NO?
You came out of retirement for that?
 

gerryf

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There’s about as much possibility of Willie Mosconi showing up here to give his blessing, as there is that John Schmidt or Doug Desmond, the only two people who were there for the duration of the run, show up here to give their blessing to their claimed run, NO?
Hey! You're back! I know why, and maybe it will work out for you.

John Schmidt sounds exactly like Mosconi said it himself "...prepared an affidavit attesting to the validity of my claim to a new record. A few days later, the BCA gave it its stamp of approval."

It sounds like Nick Varner, Mark Wilson, and Bob Jewett, and others have given it their blessing. I think they know more than you!

Maybe you and Danny could scrounge together $50 each and take a look for yourself!

Ha! Ha! You're so comical!
 
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lfigueroa

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You said "we all know it was an 8 foot table". I pointed out that it is pretty well documented and accepted that it was in fact an oversize 8, 8.5 foot.

It isn't the things we dont know that get us in trouble as much as the things we do know that aren't true.

I actually don't know what exact size the table was.

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

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But was the one in Ohio one of them?
I don't doubt 300 people can fit in a room, but even if it was in the middle of an air force hanger, 300 can't get close enough to see much.

I've read the room was a walk up and a good size that took up two address numbers.

I believe it had over a dozen pool tables, a snooker table, and a billiard table.

Lou Figueroa
 
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