Yes, I was being conservative with the 80% number- I would say 1 out of every 15 for the full rack break shots in most instances and then perhaps once every rack or less- so let's say 3 out of every 30 shots in 14.1 may be that longer fuller stroke so the number probably truly 90% or more not needing a long full stroke in 14.1
I don't think these guys are Monday morning quarterbacking- they are just saying what they saw in the video and Bob Jewett is just stating his opinions- facts and opinions are what forums are supposed to be what this is all about- and yours is duly noted as well!
Who is to decide the interpretation of "if it moves too much" ? That is the reason you have rules- they are supposed to be unyielding. A quarter of an inch in 14.1 can mean the difference between ending a run or continuing a run- so, I think rules are rules period. Can a batter ALMOST tip a third strike swing and still stay up at the plate-NO. Can a golfer barely touch a ball on the green with his club and not be held accountable- NO.
Played for 20 years, US Pool, Snooker, Carom, C8b, Blackball every cuesport I could. I have NEVER, EVER seen anything like it on a level table, except when they tried to launch the Cyclop balls and they were unevenly weighted (or out of round) from the factory, in principle turning the cueball into a "crazy 8-ball". I haven't seen any good explanations for how it could realistically happen in Johns run. I havent tried it, but I think the only way I could possibly replicate this action would be on a napped snooker cloth, shooting diagonally to the nap, slowly with extreme spin (hitting an object ball full with top and side, to take the speed off the cueball). Otherwise the table would have to be out of level, or some sort of trench or foreign object must be either on/in the cloth or under it. Usually, when a piece of chalk redirects a ball you can see it from the ball action. Not so here.
Dr Dave even did a video trying to replicate it that’s available on YouTube. While he did show the ball drifts with extreme spin, it was nowhere near what happened in this video. Bob Jewett had an interesting possible explanation that one of the measles on the CB could have been imperfect and caused the absurd drift that happened here, which Dave cites at the end of the video.
Measle cueballs will sometimes get worn unevenly. I think this is mostly caused by too much polishing, but could be possible with natural wear. My club would sometimes run the polishing machine without adequate polish or "dirty" and when they stopped doing that, I never saw such a ball again. The ball almost always chips or get scratched deeply before this happens and gets discarded. I wish I could show such a ball, but I have seen a couple of examples of such balls "settling" on a completly level glass surface. Those balls had been played for thousands and thousands of hours without complaints and no visible drift to speak of. When we tried playing with them, the best we could do was make them "settle" on the table at the very last little rotation, could never make them drift much more than a few mm. You must be very astute to notice during play, we tried very hard in order to even see it, but in games like 14.1 and 8 ball where you you have more ball bumping and slow movement, you can sometimes pick up on it, which is how it was discovered. Also, cloth imperfections tend to hide the effects of such minor defects, so I'm not even sure the cloth wasn't to blame for some of the results. For drift this extreme, the wear would have to be extreme as well as having the ball in the perfect orientation. I seriously doubt John played with such a beat up set.
Yes I find it nearly impossible to believe John would’ve put all this effort in to attempting to break the 526 record and making sure to video it, while playing with anything less than a virtually brand new cue ball.
Sometimes the incredible happens. I have that cue ball and it is nowhere close to new.
Michael Jordan stuck his tongue out while playing too.After watching a portion of the video I think John isn't a punch stroker, it depends on the shot whether or whether not he bring his shaft back in the final stroke, sometimes he does and other times he doesn't. As I said depending on the shot.
Another thing that I noted which is kinda funny, when he becomes in the zoon his tongue goes out as he strokes the balls and to the side, I know that has nothing to do with anything but I just though it's funny that his tongue comes out to the side of his mouth and he bites on it, anyone else noticed this?Plus I've seen other pro's that do this, Darren Appleton as he strokes the ball his tongue comes out but in the middle and he bites it.
I don't know whats the tongue deal here, but I know for a fact that Darren was called on it one time and he wanted to get rid of this habit, then his game dropped a considerable amount in level, a few weeks later he went back to biting his tongue, I know its weird subject but I swear these stuff happen and some peeps I think will lose their game if they stop doing these habits.
Tongue protrusion when concentrating is hard-wired into our nervous systems.
Depends on who you are talking to. I'm done. Said what I wanted to say.
I have seen something similar happen in the final of a local 10-ball championship. The ball was moving up table, parallel to the long rail, and about a diamond in. It wasn't moving fast, but as it passed the side pocket, it started to curve and eventually scratched in the corner pocket.
I have a three ball that if you set with the number up and facing away from you and bank it straight up and down the table about a diamond from the side rail to your right, it will curve enough at the end to make the bank, like below. If the ball is not turned the right/wrong way, it won't curve or it will curve the other way. It seems to have a heavy side.
Funny... I think it should actually be adhered to more. In game play your opponent can determine if the touch foul has any bearing on the game. On a solo high run attempt, a touch foul of a cluster can dractically changed the outcome.
