Matchroom Predator Championship League Pool

That was Emily Frazer exhibiting a low-class moment because SVB, among others, didn't play because they wouldn't wear the Predator Patch, which was later changed to a Predator Event Patch. I heard she was pissed because he made a comment about changing the rules to no push.
....and i think you're reading more into this.

Shane apparently asked for changes to the push rule. This is nothing new. Many other players have asked about that, and Mark Wilson is pretty vocal about eliminating it.

Shane also went fishing this winter, and made a comment about not knowing when he'd go back to playing pool full-time. He has posted on FB that he's now back playing full-time.
 
I cannot stand Emily Frazer. I think she's a narcissist who's overly sensitive to any kind of criticism or disagreement with the decisions Matchroom makes. She's not a pool player at all but rather than listen to people's feedback and learn from it, she immediately goes on the defensive and says if you don't like it then don't play in our events. I can understand believing in yourself and the decisions your organization has made, but I think her responses to these comments have been poorly handled. The comments about Shane during this latest match are pretty unprofessional in my opinion, particularly by someone at the top of the totem pole.

Ultimately I am happy that Matchroom/Predator are putting money back into the sport, but I'm also pretty nervous about their growing influence and taking over so many of the prestigious events. We need other entities to sponsor events otherwise it's going to be a monopoly where Matchroom dictates everything. I could envision a scenario where if you speak out against Matchroom on something (world ranking calculation, ball colors, etc.) or if you're not sponsored by Predator, you will get blacklisted from many of the major events. Just look at the controversy around these Predator CLP patches along with the photoshopping of Mosconi Cup photos to remove player's sponsor patches/add Predator ones to players like Fedor Gorst who is sponsored by Cuetec. That kind of stuff scares me yet very few people seem to share these concerns.
 
Who was the lady commentator when Kelly and Tkatch were playing? She started talking about how Shane was asking Matchroom could change some rule on the pushouts. She said she questioned if he had retired from pool and then it sounded like she said he should stick to ice fishing.
That's Emily Frazer. I would do a CBC (Compliment before Criticise) here.
She is outspoken and together with Matchroom has done more for pool than anyone else in past few years. I would say she is toned down in these TV broadcasts. In podcasts and skype interviews however, she has been quite colorful (as in colorful language) :)

From what I’ve seen, Ouschan has hit a bad patch, as of late. Snake bit, if you will. He struggled back when the virtual matches were being televised and was visibly irritated with his play and rolls. With fewer opportunities to compete, he looks to still be out of form. My hope is, he gets past it soon. I enjoy watching him at his best.


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It's the hair. He changed his hair. We have seen in pool how pool players fortune change when they change their hair ;)
 
All pro players get like that when they're not playing well. (Maybe all players?)

Appleton went through that phase a while ago. SVB was visibly annoyed during the Mosconi cup. And of course, Earl, Filler, Hatch, etc., etc.

Oushan had a reputation for being easily annoyed when he was younger. During his interview the other day he said he's been having difficulty focusing on the table.

i would say it's a sliding scale. filler moves on, he is like a RAM-memory. jayson the same. there's little value in pondering previous shots when playing a match.
 
Man Niels is consistent, I love his game!! Ive been watching his personal youtube channel its great for drills and learning and I think most of what he says is a SPOT ON.

If you havent watched his personal youtube channel you're missing out! its an active channel with at least one video a week, plus one training session! insane stuff. Search his nickname on youtube
 
Yes, and Kelly was successful on the break, which led to a 2/9 combo for the win.

You know why this happened right? because of the horrible ball design.

5Ball is purple?
9Ball and Stripe balls have a black stripe and just little coloration near the number of the balls' actual color?

Who comes with ideas like this!! worst balls ever :(
 
You know why this happened right? because of the horrible ball design.

5Ball is purple?
9Ball and Stripe balls have a black stripe and just little coloration near the number of the balls' actual color?

Who comes with ideas like this!! worst balls ever :(
It's happened before in televised events with the old balls. I agree though, the balls are horrible.
 
That's Emily Frazer. I would do a CBC (Compliment before Criticise) here.
She is outspoken and together with Matchroom has done more for pool than anyone else in past few years. I would say she is toned down in these TV broadcasts. In podcasts and skype interviews however, she has been quite colorful (as in colorful language) :);)
OK, time for me to be unpopular.

Why wouldn't Matchroom feel they are doing things the right way when they are the most successful and most innovative event producer in our sport?

Matchroom was, essentially, kicked out of London by COVID and the 2020 Mosconi Cup lay on life support until Emily Frazer, the can-do event producer extraordinaire, found a way to save it by moving it to another part of England, ultimately putting $225,000 into the hands of players that had nearly no opportunity to earn a living in 2020. Matchroom has done right by the players of late.

They created this new event, and a few highly visible players chose not to show up. Whether one buys into the reasons cited by those who chose to boycott, the bottom line is that Matchroom's chance of financial success in this event was compromised.

In addition, why wouldn't Matchroom be a bit upset with the refusal of American Mosconi team members, the only internationally visible American players, to buy into their vision for the game. Matchroom has clearly stressed (the AZB interview/article in the autumn evidences this) that an increase in professionalism among American players is a high priority, and yet Billy Thorpe's behavior shows that the top Americans aren't yet committed to cleaning up their acts.

American players don't seem to want to do things the Matchroom way and aren't sufficiently supporting Matchroom in its efforts to grow the sport, and yet they are asking for rules changes. I'm inclined to agree with Matchroom that such a request is ridiculous at this moment in time.

Everything in its time, but for now, Matchroom stands alone in making a huge investment in our sport. Heaven help us all if we're not smart enough to give them the latitude they need to try to move the sport forward.

A house divided against itself shall not stand.
 
Everything in its time, but for now, Matchroom stands alone in making a huge investment in our sport. Heaven help us all if we're not smart enough to give them the latitude they need to try to move the sport forward.

A house divided against itself shall not stand.
Maybe i'm seeing it wrong, but right now, the center of pool seems to be Europe and Asia.

Matchroom seems to be the biggest player on the horizon investing in the sport in a big way, and they're pushing the international angle.

If Matchroom can do for pool only half of what they've done for snooker, we'll all be better off.
 
Maybe i'm seeing it wrong, but right now, the center of pool seems to be Europe and Asia.

Matchroom seems to be the biggest player on the horizon investing in the sport in a big way, and they're pushing the international angle.

If Matchroom can do for pool only half of what they've done for snooker, we'll all be better off.
You're seeing it right, but there's plenty of room on the bandwagon for American players, and Matchroom is very keen on having Americans in the mix, and is also pointing the way for the next generation of American players.
 
I think most would agree that what Matchroom are doing is a net positive and something to be celebrated, myself included. However, I do think it's possible to praise the results and still criticize some of the actions that occurred on the way to those results. Emily Frazer/Matchroom have shown that they refute any opposing thoughts when discussing their vision. You're either with them 100% on everything they do or you're against them. That is a problem. Just because they're doing great things for pool doesn't mean I am going to cheer-lead for them on every decision they make.

Your point about American pros is spot on and I agree with you completely. American pros have not shown that they're willing/able to elevate themselves to the level of professionalism that Matchroom, and pool in general, requires. So I believe that Matchroom's gripes with prominent American players is justified.

That said, if you're going to paint yourself as a bastion of professionalism in pool, don't make flippant remarks about one of your players, regardless of whether or not they're playing in the tournament. It doesn't matter what Emily thinks of Shane, his decision not to play in this tournament, or his proposed rules changes, she shouldn't be airing her grievances with him during the broadcast. That is not an act of a professional and she rightly deserves to be called out for that.

Her comments on Shane hints at her underlying attitude towards any alternate thoughts on the product they are selling. Feedback, both positive and negative, can be appropriate under the right circumstances. For example, Matchroom's decision to photoshop player pictures as part of their Mosconi Cup announcement was flat out wrong. They deserved to be criticized for that decision, yet they refused to admit any wrongdoing, apologize, or remove the edited photos.

On the other hand, the feedback they received on their world ranking system, the new balls they chose for their events, and this latest controversy around sponsorship patches is well within what can be deemed acceptable thoughts. No one was calling for Matchroom to be canceled because they chose the wrong ball color, they were just offering their opinion on the product Matchroom was selling. I think Emily handled that feedback poorly by going aggressive from the start and saying either get on board with this or don't play in our events. She could have been much more diplomatic in her response to this feedback to show that while they may disagree, she understands and appreciates feedback from players, sponsors, and the pool community as a whole. She is not a pool player so I think she should at listen to what pool players are saying about their decisions rather than dismissing them out of arrogance.

Despite all of this, I do think Matchroom has been good for professional pool thus far. However, Emily's attitude and the cozy relationship they have with Predator continue to make me nervous about their long term impact, particularly if other promoters don't step up and Matchroom/Predator end up being the only gig in town. Competition, even among promoters is a good thing and can only help the sport.
 
I think most would agree that what Matchroom are doing is a net positive and something to be celebrated, myself included. However, I do think it's possible to praise the results and still criticize some of the actions that occurred on the way to those results. Emily Frazer/Matchroom have shown that they refute any opposing thoughts when discussing their vision. You're either with them 100% on everything they do or you're against them. That is a problem. Just because they're doing great things for pool doesn't mean I am going to cheer-lead for them on every decision they make.

Your point about American pros is spot on and I agree with you completely. American pros have not shown that they're willing/able to elevate themselves to the level of professionalism that Matchroom, and pool in general, requires. So I believe that Matchroom's gripes with prominent American players is justified.

That said, if you're going to paint yourself as a bastion of professionalism in pool, don't make flippant remarks about one of your players, regardless of whether or not they're playing in the tournament. It doesn't matter what Emily thinks of Shane, his decision not to play in this tournament, or his proposed rules changes, she shouldn't be airing her grievances with him during the broadcast. That is not an act of a professional and she rightly deserves to be called out for that.

Her comments on Shane hints at her underlying attitude towards any alternate thoughts on the product they are selling. Feedback, both positive and negative, can be appropriate under the right circumstances. For example, Matchroom's decision to photoshop player pictures as part of their Mosconi Cup announcement was flat out wrong. They deserved to be criticized for that decision, yet they refused to admit any wrongdoing, apologize, or remove the edited photos.

On the other hand, the feedback they received on their world ranking system, the new balls they chose for their events, and this latest controversy around sponsorship patches is well within what can be deemed acceptable thoughts. No one was calling for Matchroom to be canceled because they chose the wrong ball color, they were just offering their opinion on the product Matchroom was selling. I think Emily handled that feedback poorly by going aggressive from the start and saying either get on board with this or don't play in our events. She could have been much more diplomatic in her response to this feedback to show that while they may disagree, she understands and appreciates feedback from players, sponsors, and the pool community as a whole. She is not a pool player so I think she should at listen to what pool players are saying about their decisions rather than dismissing them out of arrogance.

Despite all of this, I do think Matchroom has been good for professional pool thus far. However, Emily's attitude and the cozy relationship they have with Predator continue to make me nervous about their long term impact, particularly if other promoters don't step up and Matchroom/Predator end up being the only gig in town. Competition, even among promoters is a good thing and can only help the sport.
Thanks for a well-judged post. As you note, Matchroom may need to be more flexible in some respects, but I like having them at the helm of our sport and I, personally, buy into their vision.

I don't see their cozy relationship with Predator as a long-term problem at all, and I see no evidence at all that this is the first step on the road to an overly monopolistic approach to managing the pro pool product and scene.
 
Man Niels is consistent, I love his game!! Ive been watching his personal youtube channel its great for drills and learning and I think most of what he says is a SPOT ON.

If you havent watched his personal youtube channel you're missing out! its an active channel with at least one video a week, plus one training session! insane stuff. Search his nickname on youtube

yep, brilliant play in the final. albin bitching about his celebration in the end was a bit amusing. but i think kaci is still favorite to win on winner's day
 
I interrupt this regularly scheduled whine thread and want to ask a question. What kind of hairdo is this that Kaci has? It looks like he has rows or lines in his hair?


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By the way, one more thing. I don't know who enforced the color black for dress code, but I'm liking it. Just like snooker players, all of the pool players wearing black is kind of nice. It's a change. I also like the colorful country origin shirts they wear at the Mosconi Cup, but this all-black attire is like snooker players. They all look mighty dapper!
 
You're seeing it right, but there's plenty of room on the bandwagon for American players, and Matchroom is very keen on having Americans in the mix, and is also pointing the way for the next generation of American players.
Yeah, what i meant was that pool is more organized in Europe and Asia, with leagues for kids, bigger and better organized tours, coaching etc.. There seems to be lots of American players, but there also seems to be competing interests that derail attempts to make the game bigger and better.

I've really grown to like this Championship League approach, where each league has a 'regular season' round robin to determine who's in the playoffs
 
By the way, one more thing. I don't know who enforced the color black for dress code, but I'm liking it. Just like snooker players, all of the pool players wearing black is kind of nice. It's a change. I also like the colorful country origin shirts they wear at the Mosconi Cup, but this all-black attire is like snooker players. They all look mighty dapper!

don't think there is such a dress code, just dark pants, dress shoes and the sponsor requirements/limitations.

billy has been wearing red polo, niels light blue shirt and naoyuki some blue japan attire
 
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