Unmanned spray booth brainstorm for safety improvement

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I'm not a cue maker, so take this with a grain of salt...

In order to make the cuemaking process safer from a health standpoint, what about designing an unmanned finishing booth? The spray gun motion and trigger would be cnc controlled. The cues would rotate. You could design it to spray one cue at a time or 10 cues at a time or any number you wanted.

With the system being unmanned, maybe it could be designed to be very small, not much bigger than the cues and spray gun. It could be fully enclosed on all 6 sides, with a single air inlet and exhaust, both with a filter, and the exhaust also having a fan. Being compact and enclosed, it could also be used outdoors. No fear of flies landing on the cues. Any fumes would be dissipated into the wide open air much quicker than an enclosed shop. Temperature control would be a consideration though.

You would have to program the motion of the gun and the trigger on/off to apply a nice finish on all the spinning cues. I'm sure it would take some experimentation, but once set, it should be consistent from batch to batch.

Potential problems include clogging of the gun. It would go unnoticed, and the cue maker would have to correct it and re-run the batch.

You could use a Sata or knockoff spray gun and control the trigger with a solenoid. Or, you could buy a dedicated spray gun made for automation like the car companies use. That would probably be super expensive however.

CNC is dirt cheap these days. A few nema 17 stepper motors, an arduino or raspberry pi, some screws or cogged belts/pulleys for motion, and you have a cnc.

What do you guys think? Would this idea substantially improve the health risks of the cue maker? Would it produce a quality finish? Would anyone be interested in designing one?
 
I'm not a cue maker, so take this with a grain of salt...

In order to make the cuemaking process safer from a health standpoint, what about designing an unmanned finishing booth? The spray gun motion and trigger would be cnc controlled. The cues would rotate. You could design it to spray one cue at a time or 10 cues at a time or any number you wanted.

With the system being unmanned, maybe it could be designed to be very small, not much bigger than the cues and spray gun. It could be fully enclosed on all 6 sides, with a single air inlet and exhaust, both with a filter, and the exhaust also having a fan. Being compact and enclosed, it could also be used outdoors. No fear of flies landing on the cues. Any fumes would be dissipated into the wide open air much quicker than an enclosed shop. Temperature control would be a consideration though.

You would have to program the motion of the gun and the trigger on/off to apply a nice finish on all the spinning cues. I'm sure it would take some experimentation, but once set, it should be consistent from batch to batch.

Potential problems include clogging of the gun. It would go unnoticed, and the cue maker would have to correct it and re-run the batch.

You could use a Sata or knockoff spray gun and control the trigger with a solenoid. Or, you could buy a dedicated spray gun made for automation like the car companies use. That would probably be super expensive however.

CNC is dirt cheap these days. A few nema 17 stepper motors, an arduino or raspberry pi, some screws or cogged belts/pulleys for motion, and you have a cnc.

What do you guys think? Would this idea substantially improve the health risks of the cue maker? Would it produce a quality finish? Would anyone be interested in designing one?
I think some of the big cue manufacturers already have cnc finish systems.
 
I'm not a cue maker, so take this with a grain of salt...

In order to make the cuemaking process safer from a health standpoint, what about designing an unmanned finishing booth? The spray gun motion and trigger would be cnc controlled. The cues would rotate. You could design it to spray one cue at a time or 10 cues at a time or any number you wanted.

With the system being unmanned, maybe it could be designed to be very small, not much bigger than the cues and spray gun. It could be fully enclosed on all 6 sides, with a single air inlet and exhaust, both with a filter, and the exhaust also having a fan. Being compact and enclosed, it could also be used outdoors. No fear of flies landing on the cues. Any fumes would be dissipated into the wide open air much quicker than an enclosed shop. Temperature control would be a consideration though.

You would have to program the motion of the gun and the trigger on/off to apply a nice finish on all the spinning cues. I'm sure it would take some experimentation, but once set, it should be consistent from batch to batch.

Potential problems include clogging of the gun. It would go unnoticed, and the cue maker would have to correct it and re-run the batch.

You could use a Sata or knockoff spray gun and control the trigger with a solenoid. Or, you could buy a dedicated spray gun made for automation like the car companies use. That would probably be super expensive however.

CNC is dirt cheap these days. A few nema 17 stepper motors, an arduino or raspberry pi, some screws or cogged belts/pulleys for motion, and you have a cnc.

What do you guys think? Would this idea substantially improve the health risks of the cue maker? Would it produce a quality finish? Would anyone be interested in designing one?
I kinda like to see the finish going on as I do it and manipulate it.
 
Interesting video by McDermott. A little long at around 19 minutes but shows their entire process including their finishing method, that is electrostatic. I know there have been some issues with this finish if you have to do a rewrap. The finishing segment starts at around the 13 minute mark.
 
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Interesting video by McDermott. A little long at around 19 minutes but shows their entire process including their finishing method, that is electrostatic. I know there have been some issues with this finish if you have to do a rewrap. The finishing segment starts at around the 13 minute mark.
There sure is. It's not bonded and if it's on top of stain. FORGET ABOUT IT.
 
Interesting video by McDermott. A little long at around 19 minutes but shows their entire process including their finishing method, that is electrostatic. I know there have been some issues with this finish if you have to do a rewrap. The finishing segment starts at around the 13 minute mark.
Horrible finish .
There sure is. It's not bonded and if it's on top of stain. FORGET ABOUT IT.
Viking went with the same thing and it's been downhill since .

I saw a video of Pechauer's automated auto clear spraying setup . Looked nice .
 
I have a basic plan in my head for a mobile and modular one but it didn't include CNC. Small downdraft cabinet on left and square modules on the right (or some sort of interchangeability) with a fan on top and multiple levels of filtration. You could use PVC pipes for canister filters, build a box for square/rectangle filters, etc. The downside is since the it's a downdraft the air flowing through the filters is going up so it would have a top exhaust. A bottom exhaust would able to easily routed out a garage door.

If an updraft cabinet is acceptable you could use a carpet dryer blower on the bottom. Updraft spray cabinet, then air goes to the right and down through the filters and it's being pulled through via the carpet drier sitting on the bottom shelf of the cart and it's blowing right out of the garage.

I'm getting ready to start trying to apply finish to cues and that's not something I'm messing with so have been thinking a LOT about it. Looking forward to other responses.
 
Learn everything you can about finishes you are using.
Hands on will teach itself if you can grasp it but before that.
Learn about it.
How many lives do you have?
I had friends who got pretty cocky about it in the auto industry. They suffered, now they're gone!
Mark Bear, who I miss. Was told by his Doctor his UV system contributed to his cancer. Way to young.
 
Learn everything you can about finishes you are using.
Hands on will teach itself if you can grasp it but before that.
Learn about it.
How many lives do you have?
I had friends who got pretty cocky about it in the auto industry. They suffered, now they're gone!
Mark Bear, who I miss. Was told by his Doctor his UV system contributed to his cancer. Way to young.
Some finishes I use on canes and pens say>>>> Be extremely careful ...too much exposure (breathing) will cause brain damage.
 
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