if any of you LOs here are gaining any, how many nights a week do you do it?
rexus...150 teams is pretty small by APA standards. When I was an LO 30 years ago you needed a minimum of 100 teams to make a decent living ($40-$50K). Today I would estimate it takes double that (200 teams) to make any kind of living. I doubt that your LO is netting six figures with 150 teams, but likely grossing that much. It's a lot of work, and can be very gratifying, but it's certainly not a cakewalk to make good money. Step one is taking very good care of your league members...meaning you're out there 6-7 nights a week, letting players see you and talk to you.If the league is large enough, you can make a living doing it. I believe the APA LO near me earns six figures but the league is very large (150-ish teams). I'd consider most leagues a side hustle for the LO.
Typical poolplayers...they think everything should be free. Next time you go to a movie or see a concert you don't like, see if the organizer will refund your money! LMAO Around THESE parts, I don't know anyone who works for free!Ouff - around these parts if anyone would learn you made $5 running a league they would lynch you. A few years back, when the financials were shared and people saw a line item for ink and paper (to print stats and standings to post up in all 12 or so participating bars), there was an uproar. Nevermind all the volunteer time put in to compile the stats and drive around to all the bars to drop off the sheets, etc...they were outraged the stats guy used league funds to pay for ink and paper.
Yep.rexus...150 teams is pretty small by APA standards. When I was an LO 30 years ago you needed a minimum of 100 teams to make a decent living ($40-$50K). Today I would estimate it takes double that (200 teams) to make any kind of living. I doubt that your LO is netting six figures with 150 teams, but likely grossing that much. It's a lot of work, and can be very gratifying, but it's certainly not a cakewalk to make good money. Step one is taking very good care of your league members...meaning you're out there 6-7 nights a week, letting players see you and talk to you.
Scott Lee
Here's some quick math. 150 teams x 5 players per week = 750 paying players per week which is $6K in gross revenue weekly @ $8 per player. If you ran leagues for 35 out of 52 weeks it equals $210K in gross revenue. I forget how much APA got per player but for some reason $2 is sticking in my head. So net before expenses is $157,500. Also, if you are set up as a legitimate business, fuel and supplies to run the business are a write off.rexus...150 teams is pretty small by APA standards. When I was an LO 30 years ago you needed a minimum of 100 teams to make a decent living ($40-$50K). Today I would estimate it takes double that (200 teams) to make any kind of living. I doubt that your LO is netting six figures with 150 teams, but likely grossing that much. It's a lot of work, and can be very gratifying, but it's certainly not a cakewalk to make good money. Step one is taking very good care of your league members...meaning you're out there 6-7 nights a week, letting players see you and talk to you.
Scott Lee
Nice.Think if you shape league operator, who give trophies.
it is like robbing bank legally.
I can't imagine anything with pool players and tournaments being "passive". You will be herding cats until you drop dead managing a bunch of players. No thanks! ha ha ha.
$4 of every game goes to the Apa as franchise fees. They also give cash payouts to each team that wins tri cups and also pay for hotel and rooms in vegas not to mention other business expensive. It’s not just trophies.Local APA Operator is got good thing going. At end of each session, they award ’s.
So I would guess as it is a large league they have good income.
$4 of every game goes to the Apa as franchise fees. They also give cash payouts to each team that wins tri cups and also pay for hotel and rooms in vegas not to mention other business expensive. It’s not just trophies.