Diamond arrived update

Nyquil said:
I have created meaningful memories already with my 5 year old daughter in the basement around this table which is what this was all about to me in the first place. She thinks the ball return is the coolest thing ever.
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Very nice. Pool is more than a game.
 
GoldCrown said:
How durable PRC… can we get some close ups. Would like to see what it looks like.
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I love the black PRC, it looks fantastic (in my opinion) and is smooth as silk. Appears to be extremely durable, but time will tell-

-dj
 

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The_JV said:
I definitely don't... ...as in any idea how any diamond table is finished.

What about what appears to be 'tear out' around the diamond inset...?
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Sometimes chipping will occur during the CNC router cut out, thats to be expected, but gets filled in with phenolic resin.
 
DJKeys said:
I love the black PRC, it looks fantastic (in my opinion) and is smooth as silk. Appears to be extremely durable, but time will tell-

-dj
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What's nice about it is that at any time you can sand it down, and rebuff it to look new again anytime you want, or just buff the finish with a buffer and Maguire's cleaner wax, and it'll look new forever.
 
realkingcobra said:
What's nice about it is that at any time you can sand it down, and rebuff it to look new again anytime you want, or just buff the finish with a buffer and Maguire's cleaner wax, and it'll look new forever.
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How thick is the finish? What is under It?
Go ahead and forget that question because I was just on the Diamond website and it looks like the black tables are oak.
 
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ShootingArts said:
Doesn't matter if you are the manufacturer, distributer, dealer, or installer, when you are involved with something you take a level of responsibility.

Countless things I "ate" over the years that weren't my fault, but they weren't the customer's fault either! Sometimes I even ate things that were the customer's fault. Comes with being in business.

By the time an end user gets something "new" it has often passed through a half-dozen hands or more. Each one can fling the monkey and the end user just be screwed. Or, if the person or entity that is at fault won't step forward and do the right thing, sometimes somebody else does. They aren't legally liable, just a matter of the right thing to do. There is a difference between being to blame and taking responsibility to make things right.

One thing glossed over a bit about this current deal is the rail from apparently another table. I would have some questions about that if I were the buyer, maybe a whole lot of questions!

Hu
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Hey Hu, the rails I confirmed is just the prc finish. You are typically going to have striations, white flecks and can see some actual marks of wood in this phenolic resin finished bonding process. Nothing is over the finish itself it may appear that way in the picture but it's all smooth. I saw the bottom of these rails with my own eyes un-installed. They looked brand new. This material is very hard and should hold up extremely well over time. This was a knowledge gap of mine with the finish itself and what it would like. I haven't played on a diamond with these until now all the ones in my neck of the woods are older diamond wood and one oak that I have seen.

Brent
 
The_JV said:
Tear out happens... not like you're going to throw an entire rail out because of it. Just a shame it didn't get touched up
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It really doesn't tear out that often. When I used to build cues in my younger days the cutters I use made a downward cut. At the super high speed they were cutting no matter what kind of wood you are cutting the pockets into it pretty much never tear out.

If the inlays are all smooth around the edges such as dots or curves the fit would be absolutely perfect you had to press them in. If it's something say like a diamond no matter how perfectly you cut it because the cutter is round at the pointed areas there's always a void.

Okay I know some cuemaker is going to chime in and say there's a way to solve that and yes I know how but I'm talking in general.

What you do then if you're installing like an ivory or mother of pearl diamond is you put it in with a tinted epoxy as close to the background wood as you can.

This is easy when you're gluing in to say ebony. You just glue it in with a black epoxy. Once its sanded and finished it's absolutely undetectable.
 
DJKeys said:
I love the black PRC, it looks fantastic (in my opinion) and is smooth as silk. Appears to be extremely durable, but time will tell-

-dj
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It's really grown on me. I like the contrast, super smooth as you indicate. Mine has more wood mark areas than yours. No two are alike due to this unique bonding process. It's a very tough finish and with a curious 5 year old I am glad I went with it.
 
middleofnowhere said:
It really doesn't tear out that often. When I used to build cues in my younger days the cutters I use made a downward cut. At the super high speed they were cutting no matter what kind of wood you are cutting the pockets into it pretty much never tear out.

If the inlays are all smooth around the edges such as dots or curves the fit would be absolutely perfect you had to press them in. If it's something say like a diamond no matter how perfectly you cut it because the cutter is round at the pointed areas there's always a void.

Okay I know some cuemaker is going to chime in and say there's a way to solve that and yes I know how but I'm talking in general.

What you do then if you're installing like an ivory or mother of pearl diamond is you put it in with a tinted epoxy as close to the background wood as you can.

This is easy when you're gluing in to say ebony. You just glue it in with a black epoxy. Once its sanded and finished it's absolutely undetectable.
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Agreed... some tear out happens. It's possible they could have pushed their cutter tool to the limit, and maybe should have been replaced. But yet, they should have touched it up. That was a mistake.
 
If the PRC gets 'hazy' look to it just use a good wax and buff it. My buddy did it to his and it looks awesome.
 
8cree said:
You ever been in a box truck? It could have been pristine when leaving the factory. Riding across the country in the middle of pollen season, dust is going to get into places you'll never even know. Now if there was leaves falling out of it or something un-natural, well then complain away.
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It is not rocket science to keep a new pool table completely protected during shipment - it’s called shrink wrap.
 
buckshotshoey said:
Agreed... some tear out happens. It's possible they could have pushed their cutter tool to the limit, and maybe should have been replaced. But yet, they should have touched it up. That was a mistake.
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Are you saying they didn't touch it up. Did you see the table for yourself, or are you just assuming???
 
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