Here's what Florian has to say....
Florian Kohler's take on aiming systems
- Thread starter Bob Jewett
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So he bought a CTE franchise?
Ghostball over time = HAMB
Contact Points over time = HAMB
CTE Pro1 over time = HAMB
Fractional Aiming over time = HAMB
Fractions w/tip or ferrule fine-tuning over time = HAMB
HAMB is not an aiming system or aiming method. It is the actual process of repetition. You can actual hit a million balls over several years and still never become a great or consistent shot maker.
It's because HAMB, in order to truly benefit from it, requires repeatedly pocketing more shots than you're missing. That's when HAMB really becomes effective.
The more you repeat successful shots the more ingrained into your mind they become. So choosing an aiming method or system that allows you the benefit of pocketing balls more successfully without wasting too much time on trial and error and guesswork can quickly have you on a successful HAMB journey in no time.
Contact Points over time = HAMB
CTE Pro1 over time = HAMB
Fractional Aiming over time = HAMB
Fractions w/tip or ferrule fine-tuning over time = HAMB
HAMB is not an aiming system or aiming method. It is the actual process of repetition. You can actual hit a million balls over several years and still never become a great or consistent shot maker.
It's because HAMB, in order to truly benefit from it, requires repeatedly pocketing more shots than you're missing. That's when HAMB really becomes effective.
The more you repeat successful shots the more ingrained into your mind they become. So choosing an aiming method or system that allows you the benefit of pocketing balls more successfully without wasting too much time on trial and error and guesswork can quickly have you on a successful HAMB journey in no time.
The assumption is that HAMB includes trial and error correction. Not just repeatly shooting OBs randomly hoping that one goes in eventually and is worth remembering. 'Trial and error' is a method.
Yep, it sure is. Traditionally one has to use trial and error and hit X amount of balls before becoming consistent enough to start making more shots than they're missing. That's when repetition finally begins to work it's magic, after you reach that point of being able to pocket more balls than you miss.
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Contact points don't fit this model since they are components of the actual shot. Completely configured contact "measuring" (not that info-shill Kohler does), is closer to carpentry than HAMB. The only analogy might be to using a handsaw instead of shop machines. The lines and angles would still be measured and ruled to spec. HAMStrokes or better yet HAM Perfect Strokes would be closer.
HAM Perfect Stroke is very underrated .
Some people spend two decades trying to learn an impossible system while not enough time on their mechanics.
It's amazing at how moot the vast majority of the content in this particular part of the forum is for the common player. Mainly because most players have such horrific form that any system is akin to a SpongeBob bandaid on a severed leg.
Imagine teaching someone how to sight with a gun but not tell them how to old it. WTF?
If you want to do the aspiring player a favour, the 'aiming forum' should be a subforum to a 'fundamentals forum'. ...and it takes at least 1 year subscription to the fundamental portion before gaining access to the aiming section...lol.
I stated playing in 1960. No method. No formula. Just making balls. A lot of practice and visualization. There were no instructional books. No long winded videos. No shortcuts.
What if you had to get out on every one?
Took me 111,111 racks of 9ball
Why, this implies that one exists without the other. No player ever shoots without aiming. No shot is ever taken without the cue being laid down on a line that was visually chosen. Almost every book and video done before "aiming" became a controversial topic has treated aiming as something that required very little instruction while form is covered extensively.
So given that, we would expect that most players would have pretty good form and would make pretty much everything they shoot at. Yet, even players who have decent form at the lower levels still miss a lot. One could say that they are not aiming correctly if they are otherwise stroking correctly I think.
I think that aiming should be taught before anything else. It's super easy these days to use lasers to mark the shot line and then let people lay their cue or a dowel or whatever down on the line of the shot that they think is right and then check it. Once a person is able to find that shot line correctly using only their visual skills, using as much or as little help though various techniques as they need, then they can move on to how to move the ball down that line consistently. Wouldn't it make much more sense to do it that way since aiming is the first task with any shot?
And does this mean Florian is right or wrong about anything he has said?
He half-assed the Contact Geometry to lead into the CTE primer. Lots like what you do.