Resources for three cushion?

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I don't know if he addresses beginners, his stuff may be kind of advanced. I have posted a few times on here with him and didn't realize who he was.
I had close friends, dead now, who were friends of his and often talked about him. He is very highly regarded.
 
BRussell said:
I’m looking for recommendations for learning three cushion billiards. I have a couple of Byrne’s books that have billiards sections. Any other suggestions for books, videos, websites?
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Go too one pocket .org and ask this question to Mr. 3 Cushion.
 
If you have Byrne's Standard and Advanced Books on pool, the carom sections are 90% of what you need to know to start. Seriously, if you actually go through all the material in just those books, you will learn plenty to play decent billiards.

After that, table time and playing with better players will help the most.

Starting with the shots in Byrne's Trick Shots book is just plain dumb.

Hoppe's book isn't that accurate for many diagrams, wasn't actually fully written by him...much better material out there.

More advanced books are Bill Smiths, system books written by Walt Harris, and a lot of material from non US players you can buy from Kozoom.com

Youtube, Kozoom.com have a ton of videos and instructional material.
 
pt109 said:
It has history
But Hoppe brought the diamond system to the public as a learning aid
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Hoppe had nothing to do with creating the diamond system and never used it in his play. There is a passage in the Byrnes' book McGoorty where McGoorty comes upon Hoppe trying out the diamond system and Hoppe says something like, "It works, Danny, but your stroke has to be perfect.". I never found Hoppe's book all that useful as education, but it was great entertainment.

To the point of a beginner's book, I don't know anything better than Byrnes first pool and billiard book in English. I'd imagine there might be some in other languages, but alas, I am monolingual.
 
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There numerous of books on 3c playing, plus pdf you can find on AZBilliards Or the internets. But to simple put it ... find a table somewhere and then ask 3c player to play, and then advance from there with lesson/instruction, cues, and 3c diagrams training. IS it for fun ,money, or tournaments?

Just simple play the game and learn from there. Any 3c player will instruct you for the right price.

Funny you got more reply in this section than you would if posted in carom billiards section.
 
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billiardshot said:
There numerous of books on 3c playing, plus pdf you can find on AZBilliards Or the internets. But to simple put it ... find a table somewhere and then ask 3c player to play, and then advance from there with lesson/instruction, cues, and 3c diagrams training. IS it for fun ,money, or tournaments?

Just simple play the game and learn from there. Any 3c player will instruct you for the right price.
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Plus there are places where you can watch good players, and learn by watching.

Before U-Tube, Books, DVD about the only way to learn was watch.

Then practice, and buildup to being better.😀
 
bud green said:
... Hoppe's book isn't that accurate for many diagrams, wasn't actually fully written by him...much better material out there.
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The book mentioned above was Hoppe's biography. It has more or less nothing about 3C.

The Hoppe book on how to play was "Billiards As It Should Be Played." It is mostly about the no-cushion-required forms of billiards (straight rail, balkline). There is a good argument to be made that some time should be spent on that part of the game by beginners.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
Byrne already did.
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Do you mean the Standard and Advanced books? Reaching a long way back in the memory, I did learn a lot about 3CB from the billiards sections of the books, which is saying a lot as I don't think I'd heard of 3CB before the Standard book, and only read the billiards part out of idle curiosity!

I don't remember whether the stuff in the Standard book was structured as a 'beginner's guide' for someone new to the game. I have a feeling it wasn't, but it's a long time since I read it.
 
What about the books on 3C by Eddie Robin? They must be a long call for a beginner, AFAIK, but still are related to '3-cushion resources', so worth being mentioned? Even despite being pricey (or is one better getting a dozen of Kozoom-offered products and get even more 3C info than Eddie provides?)
 
bbb said:
So far what have you decided to do?
I will give you my impressions once I get it
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I‘m going to try to work on the shots in Byrne’s books, but they feel like a random selection of shots.

What I was hoping would be available is something that gets more into how to look for shots. I know people might say there are no shortcuts and it just takes time, but I think it’s possible to see common familiar situations: three rail patterns, 5 rail patterns, ball first vs. rail first, etc. I know there will always be tough situations, but I think I’m missing lots of obvious patterns. It seems like some guidance like “when the balls sit like this, use this pattern” would be really helpful.
 
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BRussell said:
I‘m going to try to work on the shots in Byrne’s books, but they feel like a random selection of shots.

What I was hoping would be available is something that gets more into how to look for shots. I know people might say there are no shortcuts and it just takes time, but I think it’s possible to see common familiar situations: three rail patterns, 5 rail patterns, ball first vs. rail first, etc. I know there will always be tough situations, but I think I’m missing lots of obvious patterns. It seems like some guidance like “when the balls sit like this, use this pattern” would be really helpful.
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It isn't like pool though.

When 'the balls are like this' doesn't work as often, as there can be huge differences in speed, amount of contact on first ball, spin, etc...depending on the lie of the balls.

It is a great game. Go play, have fun, make friends, ask questions and pay attention.
 
Black-Balled said:
When 'the balls are like this' doesn't work as often, as there can be huge differences in speed, amount of contact on first ball, spin, etc...depending on the lie of the balls. ...
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As US Champion Bud Harris said, a quarter inch can change a shot from easy to impossible.

I think the main part of learning 3-cushion is getting a feel for where the balls want to go. Let the spin and the table help you.

Take Byrne to the table. Work on each diagram. If a diagram doesn't work at first, you may want to ask a local player to show you how it does work.
 
BRussell said:
I‘m going to try to work on the shots in Byrne’s books, but they feel like a random selection of shots.

What I was hoping would be available is something that gets more into how to look for shots. I know people might say there are no shortcuts and it just takes time, but I think it’s possible to see common familiar situations: three rail patterns, 5 rail patterns, ball first vs. rail first, etc. I know there will always be tough situations, but I think I’m missing lots of obvious patterns. It seems like some guidance like “when the balls sit like this, use this pattern” would be really helpful.
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I think the only way to get this is by playing, preferable with better players. While there are patterns it is not cookbook. There are always adjustments to make, and sometimes something that looks like a 3c shot turns out to be much easier as a 5c shot.
 
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