I put a 9' foot in my garage, 4.5" tight deep pockets. I want my practice table as tough as possible. When I go out I'm almost never going to run into a tougher 9' table, which can throw you off if you're used to those 5" (or larger) pockets you sometimes see. On a barbox, shotmaking is better because there are no long shots but position play is tougher because of the reduced surface area. Much easier to run out on a 9' than a seven foot.
IS IT EASIER TO GO FROM GOLD CROWN TO DIAMOND TABLE OR VICE VERSA ??????
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I will add if you got a home table thats installed correctly no matter the brand you will be ahead of the curve vs playing on any table in pool halls etc. I am able to practice way more since my table is just a flight stairs away. I haven't been to a pool hall since it arrived. No need until I get into league.
I completely agree
I need 6.5” “banger” cut pockets please!!!
On 7fts, and I'll let Trent keep thinking he's pioneering something new with Diamond slates, I've already done that several times, so yes, there's demand for the slate shelfs being of the Diamond dimensions iusetoberich
What 9ft is that with deep shelf pockets?
This is a GC1 with Diamond deepshelf pockets, see how much of the object ball is in/out of the corner pocket? That's a 4" corner pocket! Under normal circumstances when you tighten the pockets up, you actually reduce the depth of the pocket shelf, forcing the object balls to fall in sooner because the balls don't have anywhere to sit inside of the pocket. So I always wonder what players mean when they tightened their pockets up and made the shelf deeper, so I ask for pictures to see if their pockets look this deep....they never do!!
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If a customer has a broken slate GC, and loves the play of Diamonds, and loves the appearance of GC’s, and has a few thousand dollars to burn, maybe, maybe, maybe, he would go for a custom replacement slate made to Diamond pocket specs with GC bolt patterns.On 7fts, and I'll let Trent keep thinking he's pioneering something new with Diamond slates, I've already done that several times, so yes, there's demand for the slate shelfs being of the Diamond dimensions iusetoberich
It's the Indian not the table.No I have both in our community room, DIAMONDS SUCK!!!
IMHO.
Well, Gold Crown makes the game a little easier .
Never mind the more generous pockets, imo it's just easier to see the pockets when you are down on the GC tables because of the tear shaped top rail. When you are down, you see the playing field and not much of outside of it .
Never mind the more generous pockets, imo it's just easier to see the pockets when you are down on the GC tables because of the tear shaped top rail. When you are down, you see the playing field and not much of outside of it .
Except he’s not an Indian, he’s a clown that can’t play a lick.
well if you grew up playing on gold crowns the diamonds will not be your first chose most times for most people.
its called familiarity.
for 9 ball games its easy to transition as mostly getting used to the pockets is primary.
in one pocket getting used to how the rails play is primary. so the transition is tougher and longer.
superior players like tight pockets as they slaughter weaker players.
players that like to play position using the pocket size which has been part of pool forever cant do it very much on tight pockets and diamond type tables that dont take the balls easily.
fast tables with tight pockets has change pool to a game for better pocketers and movers a cost to the player that uses all his skills and thinks more on the planning of the shot. and the player with the more powerful stroke.
its called familiarity.
for 9 ball games its easy to transition as mostly getting used to the pockets is primary.
in one pocket getting used to how the rails play is primary. so the transition is tougher and longer.
superior players like tight pockets as they slaughter weaker players.
players that like to play position using the pocket size which has been part of pool forever cant do it very much on tight pockets and diamond type tables that dont take the balls easily.
fast tables with tight pockets has change pool to a game for better pocketers and movers a cost to the player that uses all his skills and thinks more on the planning of the shot. and the player with the more powerful stroke.
i never said i was pioneering it, i know you have done it far before me. just offering it as an optionOn 7fts, and I'll let Trent keep thinking he's pioneering something new with Diamond slates, I've already done that several times, so yes, there's demand for the slate shelfs being of the Diamond dimensions iusetoberich
TFT
Pic similar to the one posted by RKC, just a standard GC slate w/ Pro Cut pockets. This 1 ball is set as deep as it can be without falling. For comparison.
Pretty neat you can get Diamond slates drilled with Brunswick holes, if your slate gets damaged or crowned bad or you just love the GC styling but want the more updated/demanding equipment, as stated above
I drill the slates, I don't get them drilled.
Thank you Trent. That's what I was thinking as I read this thread and you were the first to say it on here. A pool player learns to adjust to the equipment he/she is playing on. Otherwise you're chopped liver.ahahahahahahahhaha, Let me be the first to tell you: YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PLAY POOL TO SWITCH BETWEEN THE TWO!!!! All the lessons in the world won't change that! LOL <---- SEE WHAT I DID THERE
Transitioning between a Brunswick or a Diamond, it really has nothing at all to do with the table because a good player can play on any table and do well. Pro Golfer's make it happen in different conditions all the time!
TFT
The first time I played on Diamonds I knew within minutes that the rails banked shorter. That was the biggest thing for me to adjust to. I've played on tightened up Gold Crowns and Gandy buckets, and everything in between, so playing on a 4.5" Diamond was no big deal. Just don't try to cheat the pockets and you'll be all right.
There are other things I've learned about Diamonds (just as you have) that make them different, but I prefer not to elaborate on that here. I've shared those little inconsistencies with people who visit me and play on my 4.25" pocket Diamond. Once you know about stuff like that, you know which shots you can shoot and which ones to avoid. Remember we're talking about two of the best pool tables ever made. I've played on a lot of absolute junk in my life, so I'm not about to complain about either table.
For example, I guess I'd played a million games of Eight Ball on Valley tables with the big ball and the magnetic ball before I ever hit a ball on the new Diamond Smart table. Over twenty years ago Henry Nogiec took me to bar on the outskirts of Las Vegas and introduced me to a Diamond 7' table for the first time. After playing one game, my reaction was something like this, "Wow, it's a real pool table!"
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Now if that pocket shelf is the standard Brunswick shelf, and that was a 4" pocket, about 60% of that 1 ball would be sticking out past the points of the pocket, because of the reduction in the slate shelf from closing in the pocket opening.
Makes sense.