1983 Richard Black Cue / what is it worth?

PoorBoy B

PoorBoy B

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It looks all original but I was not sure if something was done to the butt because it looked like the finish was sucked up by the wood, its still glossy though. Maybe this is just due to this was some of his early work you can tell the inllay stuff was done by hand or it looks like it to me anyway. Both shafts have ivory furrules. I'm not sure what the white inlays are but I guess they are ivory too. What would you say the value of this cue would be.



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Here is a email I just got back from Richard Black.
"As shown, I made this cue in '83 and it was called a "Shanin". The woods are birdseye maple (walnut colored stain) and rosewood - with ivory inlays. It was one of my brochure cues and in '83 I probably made 8 or ten of them. I later replaced that design with the Shanin II which is still considered one of my brochure cues.
As for the finish sucking into the wood I would certainly expect that to happen after 25 years! A new finish/rewrap is $240. if you feel it's necessary, and takes 3-4 weeks.
r black"
 
PoorBoy B said:
Here is a email I just got back from Richard Black.
"As shown, I made this cue in '83 and it was called a "Shanin". The woods are birdseye maple (walnut colored stain) and rosewood - with ivory inlays. It was one of my brochure cues and in '83 I probably made 8 or ten of them. I later replaced that design with the Shanin II which is still considered one of my brochure cues.
As for the finish sucking into the wood I would certainly expect that to happen after 25 years! A new finish/rewrap is $240. if you feel it's necessary, and takes 3-4 weeks.
r black"
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Well that seems like a good price to have him do it.
 
I would think that the cue with a refinish and everything being straight and shaft dia being 12.80mm or better $1500-$1750. I 'll be the first to admit I don't know that much about Blacks.

You might want to PM Fast-n-Loose he used to really be into Blacks and would know for sure what the cue is worth. I would trust his opinion.
 
ribdoner said:
5 to 7 hun
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Yep. Pretty close to that.

I had a similar cue awhile back...minus the windows in the sleeve....and it was around that same ballpark.

If you got the cue refinished and rewrapped....maybe $800-$850-ish.
 
lenoxmjs said:
I would think that the cue with a refinish and everything being straight and shaft dia being 12.80mm or better $1500-$1750. I 'll be the first to admit I don't know that much about Blacks.

You might want to PM Fast-n-Loose he used to really be into Blacks and would know for sure what the cue is worth. I would trust his opinion.
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IF HE GETS 800, HE SHOULD DO BACK FLIPS.....

IT REALISTICLY BRINGS 5-600 OR SO. AND THATS REFINISHED.

IF THE CUE HAS BAD FINISH, EVEN 500 IS A STRETCH.

BUT I'D TAKE THE SELLERS APPROACH AND LIST IT FOR 4 TIMES THE ACTUAL VALUE ON EBAY, AND SEE IF SOME MORON BITES....LOL:D
 
one mans treasure is one.....

The cue is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, whether it is $5 or $5000
 
cuegrip said:
The cue is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, whether it is $5 or $5000
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I THINK HE WAS LOOKING MORE FOR AN ACTUAL NUMBER, THAN THE STANDARD "WHATEVER SOMEBODY WILL PAY" ANSWER
 
PoorBoy B said:
Here is a email I just got back from Richard Black.
"As shown, I made this cue in '83 and it was called a "Shanin". The woods are birdseye maple (walnut colored stain) and rosewood - with ivory inlays. It was one of my brochure cues and in '83 I probably made 8 or ten of them. I later replaced that design with the Shanin II which is still considered one of my brochure cues.
As for the finish sucking into the wood I would certainly expect that to happen after 25 years! A new finish/rewrap is $240. if you feel it's necessary, and takes 3-4 weeks.
r black"
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That's a reasonable price for the work, but you'd still only get between $500-$700 most likely once done.
Personally, I like the cue, but without putting more money into it, you're still not going to get a whole lot for it.
And even if you do, it's not going to turn into a $2,000 investment-
 
If the cue is straight and there is some meat to the shafts, I would expect it to bring $800 plus. A refinish may be needed but this is a beautiful Black. Hard to find that kind of playability or collectability for under 1K. As for the $500-$600 appraisal, I'd pay five now if the cue is straight and the shafts are 12.5 or thicker.
 
I actually thinks this cue looks great in the pictures. I think its a shame if it should fetch anything less then $700 in this market.

Its i nice cue.
 
Rtoron said:
Everybody wants something for nothing. That is why the low ball estimates.
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were those "low ball" numbers 13+- yrs ago

unknowns at that time:,shaft size, ferrule matl, inlay matl, straight, sound, etc

and the majority of buyers here are re-sellers who would like to make a dollar
 
PoorBoy B said:
Here is a email I just got back from Richard Black.
"As shown, I made this cue in '83 and it was called a "Shanin". The woods are birdseye maple (walnut colored stain) and rosewood - with ivory inlays. It was one of my brochure cues and in '83 I probably made 8 or ten of them. I later replaced that design with the Shanin II which is still considered one of my brochure cues.
As for the finish sucking into the wood I would certainly expect that to happen after 25 years! A new finish/rewrap is $240. if you feel it's necessary, and takes 3-4 weeks.
r black"
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This idiot Richard black thinks the finish is still wet and sucking into the wood after 25 years 😭🤣🤣🤣 I have had plenty of cues over 25 years old and this never happened to any of them. Just more proof he's been a shitty cue maker from day 1. I wouldn't give that hack $12 to refinish a cue of mine.
 
I don't think Richard Black deserves to be called names. He's an old man in the twilight of his life and has been through a lot in the last few years.
 
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