Using a flat face shaft with a piloted joint?

[RingKing]

I have an old 314 flat face no ring.
And a Scruggs sneaky with piloted wood joint no ring.

Are there problems in using these together?

Essentially I would have wood to wood joint with a small air pocket around the screw. And no rings or any other support for the wood.

I imagine the air pocket being compressed and splitting the joint

 

[bradsh98]

I have an old 314 flat face no ring.
And a Scruggs sneaky with piloted wood joint no ring.

Are there problems in using these together?

Essentially I would have wood to wood joint with a small air pocket around the screw. And no rings or any other support for the wood.

I imagine the air pocket being compressed and splitting the joint

No issue. And, definitely no concern of splitting the joint from "the air pocket being compressed".

The air pocket will not be pressurized, as the cavity will be closed slowly, when you thread the shaft onto the butt. Pressures will be equivalent, unless you were to take a warm cue (assembled) into a cold area. Even so, the pressure difference will not be enough for concern, particularly for such a small volume of air.

In other words, you're overthinking it.

 

[ideologist]

In other words, you're overthinking it.

This ^

 

[bbb]

no problem at all

 

[measureman]

I did it once with a Pechauar cue.
No problem.

 

[Keith E.]

No issue. And, definitely no concern of splitting the joint from "the air pocket being compressed".

The air pocket will not be pressurized, as the cavity will be closed slowly, when you thread the shaft onto the butt. Pressures will be equivalent, unless you were to take a warm cue (assembled) into a cold area. Even so, the pressure difference will not be enough for concern, particularly for such a small volume of air.

In other words, you're overthinking it.

That may be a thing where he's from.

Keith

 

[PhilosopherKing]

Don’t do it with a Lambros

 

[dirtvictim]

The piloted section will not compress the air, that is physically impossible. I wouldn't use this combo except maybe for finesse pool, never break with this. The pin could shift if unsupported in that section and it could cause cracks. Not that it absolutely would but it's not worth the risk.

 

[alstl]

The problem I see is having trouble with it not staying tight.

 

[straightline]

Cue companies should provide M/F adapter spacers

 

[RingKing]

Here is a photo. None of my piloted options are the right size pilots so really doesn't matter I guess.

Tiny threaded spacers would work

 

[jimmyco]

Essentially I would have wood to wood joint with a small air pocket around the screw. And no rings or any other support for the wood.

The brass insert in your 314 should be more than enough support.

 

[greyghost]

I have an old 314 flat face no ring.
And a Scruggs sneaky with piloted wood joint no ring.

Are there problems in using these together?

Essentially I would have wood to wood joint with a small air pocket around the screw. And no rings or any other support for the wood.

I imagine the air pocket being compressed and splitting the joint

It’s not a piston…the faces are screwed together leaving them no ability to get closer to be able to compress any air…much less it’s not a “seal” that’s going to hold pressurized air even if it wanted to.

Stay calm and carry on lol