Shaw 714 video link (low quality) here:

lfigueroa said:
I doubt that will happen — don’t you think it’d be nice if Jayson made a little extra dough on his run?

And as far as I know we have the video triple-backed up, so it happened.

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Wait a minute, I thought it was declared here earlier this week that he was being paid by the people putting on the event if the record was broken- I seem to remember someone saying that it would be a very nice payday ( implied being paid out of the promoter's pocket) if he does it. Now we would have to pay to see it? So do the folks who "paid" him to do it now get a % of what Jason ( or the promoters) sell to the public?

Actually none of this is any of my business, it is a free country, and I am not surprised by it. So this was not actually an exhibition sponsored by people who's sole motive was the re- popularization of the great game of 14.1, as at least I believed that is what is was, and seemed to be promoted in that manner.

I really have no problem with the guy or anyone else cashing in on this; but I followed most of it and just never recall anyone involved with it stating to the public that " if record is broken, we will have a very nice unedited run to offer to those interested" ( for a price)!

It is not really a big deal, just kinda seems like I just went to pick up a car I bought and the guy said- OH do you want the steering wheel- that will cost you extra- not that we paid to see Facebook, but it just kinda feels a little funny that the altruistic ( towards the game of 14.1) feeling on all of this has just slipped away very quickly - at least for me.

Glad he ran 714 and hope all the folks make a good dollar off of it - I just was hoping to have a little different feeling this time - if you tell me that only Jason will profit from the run, that only he gets every dollar from the sales of this "nice unedited run" this whole event would take on a bit different tone for me. It would help renew my faith that there are people out there doing this kind of thing just because they care enough about the game - I was probably just too naive- my fault.
 
This kinds of puts a crimp on John Schmidt's monetization of his high run, which is now the second highest run in Straight Pool. He who hesitates is lost and John had his opportunity to sell videos and chose not to. I hope Jayson makes a million dollars! Congrats to Bobby Chamberlain and his crew for pulling it off. 714 is exactly 51 racks! He must have missed his break shot in rack #52.
 
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jay helfert said:
This kinds of puts a crimp on John Schmidt's monetization of his high run, which is now the second highest run in Straight Pool. He who hesitates is lost and John had his opportunity to sell videos and chose not to. I hope Jayson makes a million dollars! Congrats to Bobby Chamberlin and his crew for pulling it off. 714 is exactly 51 racks! He must have missed his break shot in rack #52.
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scratched on the break. Wasn't in the mood for missing for about 12 hours straight 🤣

But I would still pay 40-50$ for a copy of John's run :)
 
mikemosconi said:
Wait a minute, I thought it was declared here earlier this week that he was being paid by the people putting on the event if the record was broken- I seem to remember someone saying that it would be a very nice payday ( implied being paid out of the promoter's pocket) if he does it. Now we would have to pay to see it? So do the folks who "paid" him to do it now get a % of what Jason ( or the promoters) sell to the public?

Actually none of this is any of my business, it is a free country, and I am not surprised by it. So this was not actually an exhibition sponsored by people who's sole motive was the re- popularization of the great game of 14.1, as at least I believed that is what is was, and seemed to be promoted in that manner.

I really have no problem with the guy or anyone else cashing in on this; but I followed most of it and just never recall anyone involved with it stating to the public that " if record is broken, we will have a very nice unedited run to offer to those interested" ( for a price)!

It is not really a big deal, just kinda seems like I just went to pick up a car I bought and the guy said- OH do you want the steering wheel- that will cost you extra- not that we paid to see Facebook, but it just kinda feels a little funny that the altruistic ( towards the game of 14.1) feeling on all of this has just slipped away very quickly - at least for me.

Glad he ran 714 and hope all the folks make a good dollar off of it - I just was hoping to have a little different feeling this time - if you tell me that only Jason will profit from the run, that only he gets every dollar from the sales of this "nice unedited run" this whole event would take on a bit different tone for me. It would help renew my faith that there are people out there doing this kind of thing just because they care enough about the game - I was probably just too naive- my fault.
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What happens financially is between Bobby and the players.

Personally, I don't think there could possibly be anything wrong with Jayson making a little more money -- on top of what he was paid for his accomplishment -- marketing a few things. Myself and a few others told Bobby yesterday to have Jayson sign everything that wasn't nailed down, lol.

Lou Figueroa
 
Nooo don’t do it that way lol. They took down the video.

I think it should be on the fb page and YouTube right now no doubt, it’s crazy otherwise - get some serious attention. Sell a signed copy with commentary but let the raw run float free. Someone is going to beat 714 probably within two months tops I’d say unless a hold is put on this show.

This is a totally different situational stratosphere than John found himself in as the 60 year record breaker. This one is even less marketable in my humble opinion. Either way...I saw it at least lol. So no chance of months and years gone by wondering what magic occurred during the record pot
 
I also hope Jayson makes a million dollars, but the challenge from a monetization standpoint is that Jayson could easily break this record again. I watched the last hour live and honestly thought he could get to 1000. Compared to the first day when I thought he could hit 300 but never 500.

And I think if he tried for a few more days he would break the record again (of course he has better things to do like be with his family and get ready for Derby). The same is true if Filler or Gorst can show the same heart as Jayson.
 
kling&allen said:
I also hope Jayson makes a million dollars, but the challenge from a monetization standpoint is that Jayson could easily break this record again. I watched the last hour live and honestly thought he could get to 1000. Compared to the first day when I thought he could hit 300 but never 500.

And I think if he tried for a few more days he would break the record again (of course he has better things to do like be with his family and get ready for Derby). The same is true if Filler or Gorst can show the same heart as Jayson.
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Yeah, I was thinking similarly. At what point does the high-run record start to become meaningless?

Mosconi's record was in place for 70 years. Schmidt's record was in place for three years. I think everyone agrees there's nothing to stop Gorst, Chinakhov, or Filler from setting a new record on Monday. They have the same or greater skill than Shaw. It's just becoming a measure of the hours you want to put into it.

It's like how many long bank shots can you make in a row. How many spot shots can you make in a row?

I think there was hope that chasing High-Run records would greatly raise the popularity of straight pool, but unfortunately there's already evidence that it's not happening, at least not unless they come up with a different tactic.
 
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lfigueroa said:
What happens financially is between Bobby and the players.

Personally, I don't think there could possibly be anything wrong with Jayson making a little more money -- on top of what he was paid for his accomplishment -- marketing a few things. Myself and a few others told Bobby yesterday to have Jayson sign everything that wasn't nailed down, lol.

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I'll pony up for a signed dvd of the run, Jayson deserves a little extra for this accomplishment.
 
gerryf said:
Yeah, I was thinking similarly. At what point does the high-run record start to become meaningless?

Mosconi's record was in place for 70 years. Schmidt's record was in place for three years. I think everyone agrees there's nothing to stop Gorst, Chinakhov, or Filler from setting a new record on Monday. They have the same or greater skill than Shaw. It's just becoming a measure of the hours you want to put into it.

It's like how many long bank shots can you make in a row. How many spot shots can you make in a row?

I think there was hope that chasing High-Run records would greatly raise the popularity of straight pool, but unfortunately there's already evidence that it's not happening, at least not unless they come up with a different tactic.
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As has been noted, people are talking about the run all over the place -- people that don't play 14.1 and well as those that do and lots of folks were watching the streams.

Those are all good things and we count them as a win. Though I don't have specifics yet I'm pretty sure there is more to come. Stay tuned.

Lou Figueroa
 
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gerryf said:
Yeah, I was thinking similarly. At what point does the high-run record start to become meaningless?

Mosconi's record was in place for 70 years. Schmidt's record was in place for three years. I think everyone agrees there's nothing to stop Gorst, Chinakhov, or Filler from setting a new record on Monday. They have the same or greater skill than Shaw. It's just becoming a measure of the hours you want to put into it.

It's like how many long bank shots can you make in a row. How many spot shots can you make in a row?

I think there was hope that chasing High-Run records would greatly raise the popularity of straight pool, but unfortunately there's already evidence that it's not happening, at least not unless they come up with a different tactic.
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Agreed. Someone in another thread posted about the record for consecutive basketball free throws (or most made in an hour, etc.). That's a record that gets broken every year when someone good decides to dedicate a few weeks to break it. And no one really notices or cares about that record.
 
loggerhead12 said:
You guys did a good thing. Don't screw up the marketing. Facebook is garbage for monetization, and nobody wants to buy the shiny circles from the 90's any more. Put it on YouTube as a PPV and make some bank of it.
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Im not paying per viewing of it because there is no fucking way I can stay conscious that long.

I'll gladly pay for a copy of it that I can own, preferably a digital download, not somewhere I can stream it.
 
lfigueroa said:
As has been noted, people are talking about the run all over the place -- people that don't play 14.1 and well as those that do and lots of folks were watching the streams.

Those are all good things and we count them as a win. Though I don't have specifics yet I'm pretty sure there is more to come. Stay tuned.

Lou Figueroa
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Ha! Ha! I noticed that the last video on the Facebook site now has 31000 views. That's more than 20,000 more views than yesterday morning. All those people watching and thinking it will show the record 714 run!

That's a pretty good joke that you guys pulled there!
 
Personally, I recommend how TAR did it on Vimeo. You pay for it and you can download your own copy to keep forever and have access to it on Vimeo for a year.
 
mikemosconi said:
Wait a minute, I thought it was declared here earlier this week that he was being paid by the people putting on the event if the record was broken- I seem to remember someone saying that it would be a very nice payday ( implied being paid out of the promoter's pocket) if he does it. Now we would have to pay to see it? So do the folks who "paid" him to do it now get a % of what Jason ( or the promoters) sell to the public?

Actually none of this is any of my business, it is a free country, and I am not surprised by it. So this was not actually an exhibition sponsored by people who's sole motive was the re- popularization of the great game of 14.1, as at least I believed that is what is was, and seemed to be promoted in that manner.

I really have no problem with the guy or anyone else cashing in on this; but I followed most of it and just never recall anyone involved with it stating to the public that " if record is broken, we will have a very nice unedited run to offer to those interested" ( for a price)!

It is not really a big deal, just kinda seems like I just went to pick up a car I bought and the guy said- OH do you want the steering wheel- that will cost you extra- not that we paid to see Facebook, but it just kinda feels a little funny that the altruistic ( towards the game of 14.1) feeling on all of this has just slipped away very quickly - at least for me.

Glad he ran 714 and hope all the folks make a good dollar off of it - I just was hoping to have a little different feeling this time - if you tell me that only Jason will profit from the run, that only he gets every dollar from the sales of this "nice unedited run" this whole event would take on a bit different tone for me. It would help renew my faith that there are people out there doing this kind of thing just because they care enough about the game - I was probably just too naive- my fault.
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He was paid 100k. It was on the live video. It slipped out.
 
iusedtoberich said:
He was paid 100k. It was on the live video. It slipped out.
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I heard the reference to 100k also, but it's not clear that was in reference to Shaw for his performance. Anyone else hear this? That is a nice sum for this run. Wonder if someone comes and beats it, do they get 100k too? :)
 
iusedtoberich said:
He was paid 100k. It was on the live video. It slipped out.
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this is why the whole "he should be rewarded" line about the DVDs is bunk. Shaw was rewarded, and handsomely. The next step (after BCA confirmaton) should be to raise awareness of the run and Shaw's sponsors by getting the full video, and a number of spinoff videos, out in a place the most people can see it.
 
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