The Simplest Aiming Systems to Visualize and Use

I don't see how that in itself is useful. You said this narrows the shot down to half the cb and half the ob. If you can't discern more than that just by looking at the balls you don't belong at a pool table. What does "offset position" really mean? Offset compared to what -- the shot line?
If you don’t know what the offset position is then you really should just stop with any and all CTE discussion on your part.
But if you’d like to actually try then start by standing behind the inside edge of the cb in relation to the cut as opposed to being a noser. And for clarification being a noser is not a bad thing if that’s the way you prefer to aim.
 
Oh, my bad. I meant to say the No Imagination Shot Line, or as Stan calls it, the NISL. Is that better?
Did you break down and buy the book or did someone give it to you? Yes, that is better. (it's a start). Now what does it mean?
And, you're wrong about engineers not being able to communicate as with a foreign language That's silly.
Sure, you would be able to both speak in English. But that doesn't mean you or they would have a clue what the other was talking about regarding their/your engineering specialty.
 
If you don’t know what the offset position is then you really should just stop with any and all CTE discussion on your part.
But if you’d like to actually try then start by standing behind the inside edge of the cb in relation to the cut as opposed to being a noser. And for clarification being a noser is not a bad thing if that’s the way you prefer to aim.
Stan doesn't recommend the bold part. The standing position, as you call it, is determined by two lines forming a third, which is then adjusted by stepping the cue ball and finding the SHOT LINE. My problem is that the idea of "offset" is not well defined. Example: I used to shoot for many years without thinking about eye position and naturally I lined up under my left eye. This was fine until I got more serious about playing and I found out that my natural position caused the cue to be crooked when I thought it was straight. I now shoot with my non-dominant right eye more over the cue and things are straight and I don't have to think about how to position my head. It just feels natural now. So was I a noser then or am I a noser now? Am I shooting at an offset now? The change is not a minor one. It may be as significant as what Stan calls an offset. So what is an offset compared to a noser? If every noser has the cue under a different part of his eye is he then offsetting a different amount than someone else?
 
Did you break down and buy the book or did someone give it to you? Yes, that is better. (it's a start). Now what does it mean?
I won't tell you unless you apologize first for saying that CTE doesn't deal with shot lines. Clearly, it does even if Stan has to make it sound like he invented the concept of a shot line by adding two words in front of it.

Sure, you would be able to both speak in English. But that doesn't mean you or they would have a clue what the other was talking about regarding their/your engineering specialty.
Of course there are terms particular to one discipline or another but there are also a lot of commonalities. It would be more like an American speaking to a Brit. We speak the same language but they say some things we can't understand the meaning of and vice versa.
 
Stan doesn't recommend the bold part. The standing position, as you call it, is determined by two lines forming a third, which is then adjusted by stepping the cue ball and finding the SHOT LINE. My problem is that the idea of "offset" is not well defined. Example: I used to shoot for many years without thinking about eye position and naturally I lined up under my left eye. This was fine until I got more serious about playing and I found out that my natural position caused the cue to be crooked when I thought it was straight. I now shoot with my non-dominant right eye more over the cue and things are straight and I don't have to think about how to position my head. It just feels natural now. So was I a noser then or am I a noser now? Am I shooting at an offset now? The change is not a minor one. It may be as significant as what Stan calls an offset. So what is an offset compared to a noser? If every noser has the cue under a different part of his eye is he then offsetting a different amount than someone else?
Well Stan does recommend standing on the inside edge of the cb so don’t be putting out bad info.
You are a noser if you start your whole process from behind ccb. Doesn’t matter which eye you are using.
 
I won't tell you unless you apologize first for saying that CTE doesn't deal with shot lines.
Apologize? ROTFLMAO!
Clearly, it does even if Stan has to make it sound like he invented the concept of a shot line by adding two words in front of it.
Stan has been playing and teaching probably for the number of years in your age and has an incredible record in both. That while working full time as a school teacher his entire working life. He KNOWS what a shot line is. Those two words in front have meaning when it comes to CTE and separates it from a "shot line". You didn't answer the question. What do the two words stand for and how does it apply?
Of course there are terms particular to one discipline or another but there are also a lot of commonalities. It would be more like an American speaking to a Brit. We speak the same language but they say some things we can't understand the meaning of and vice versa.
Nope. You could NOT apply for a position in another engineering discipline and get hired. Prove me wrong. Quit your job and apply for another in a different field. You could get paid more in the other field. Hell, do you even work now as it is?
 
And here I was trying to be complimentary. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk. What are your expectations?

Nothing uncivil at all. I'm just trying to gauge your real pool knowledge, not your own perceived one.


No squirt involved. Altered path...ever so slightly but enough to link CB to OB to make every angle on the table depending on what is done, visualized, and a good stroke. I think you're beyond epiphanies since the universal knowledge regarding everything pool is internalized in the mega database of your skull.

That having been said, why don't you tell ME how the two balls are linked visually and what is done with a backhand pivot to make all angles from straight in to over 80 degrees? Remember, this has nothing to do with the 3 magic letters and its CB to OB alignment.
Once again, typical....
 
Good advice. Just don't lie (or be deliberately ignorant) about what you do and everybody will get along. Oh, I'm not necessarily talking about CTE so don't have CTE on your brain, either.
Hey JV, isn’t this a typical post from the other side?
 
Typical denial
Not at all... I can't say enough that I'm not "anti" any method. Do what works for you. Jelly Bean, GB, Poolology, whatever. Don't care and have no axe to grind.

My comments have zero bearing on any method. Just my thoughts on the visualization of a GB during game play, regardless of the aiming method used
 
Looks like this thread is being moderated. It was already weird, now even more so…
Yep, we do agree on this. There was a number of posts that warranted it. But also posts that shouldn't have been. The question I have is who did it. I don't think it was all Mike. So, three guesses and the first two don't count. Will the guilty party please step forward.
 
Meh... I have no interest in engaging or even entertaining the old CTE battle. Moved passed it personally
Can we count on it? Time will tell if you're a man of your word or not. If I was a betting man, and I AM, my guess would be
BULL CACA.
 
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Oh, my bad. I meant to say the No Imagination Shot Line, or as Stan calls it, the NISL. Is that better?

So, what is the difference between a "shot line" and a NISL "no imagination shot line" other than night and day.
Describe... (why was this original post eradicated?)
 
Can we count on it? Time will tell if you're a man of your word or not. If I was a betting man, and I AM, my guess would be
BULL CACA.
Aha... ...and this is what I meant regarding your bias. I have no axe to grind regarding CTE, and you will not find a post on this forum wherein I attack CTE or it's users regarding CTE. I also know we've never engaged in the past. Yet your posts directed at me contained the same bile you toss at Dan. Why...? My only thought is that I'm not one of the "pro" CTE posters, so therefore I must be a CTE hater...? Yes/no..? If I'm wrong in that thinking then I truly apologize. However if that's not the case, then I really have to wonder why you'd be such an asshat to someone who merely shares a difference in opinion.

So to be clear... I'm no more anti-CTE then I am anti-JellyBean. Both methods will allow you to make more balls if you use them enough and correctly.
 
Yet your posts directed at me contained the same bile you toss at Dan.
Oh no. Dan is special and one of my favorites. I wouldn't waste "bile" or anything else on you. You're way down on the totem pole. He gets treated differently from all the rest because he asks for it and deserves it. ;)
If I'm wrong in that thinking then I truly apologize. However if that's not the case, then I really have to wonder why you'd be such an asshat to someone who merely shares a difference in opinion.
Asshat doesn't sit too well with me and it will be remembered for the future. Fact is the same could be said about you. It seems like you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You say you're no more anti-CTE than you are anti-Jelly Bean. But then you turn right back around and say we share a difference in opinion. If it ISN'T anti-CTE or anything CTE related, what the hell is it where we share a difference in opinion? Enlighten me. I could care less what you do and use or anybody else on here.
So to be clear... I'm no more anti-CTE then I am anti-JellyBean. Both methods will allow you to make more balls if you use them enough and correctly.
Now THAT is a true statement! Both methods work if played enough and correctly. So why do CTE players get attacked like they're total imbeciles by those who would get their asses stomped into the ground by a well-schooled CTE player?

I mean there ARE a number of pro instructors with the PBIA who use it and a decent number of name pro players on tour that use it and TOP amateurs. Now thousands of all level pool players across the world are involved. Does that have zero impact? Are THEY stupid? What does it take for negative Nellies on this forum to just STFU and do their own thing without the moronic questions and backlash in trying to prove it's wrong when it works like a charm for those who are advanced with it?
Is it ever going to stop?
 
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Well Stan does recommend standing on the inside edge of the cb so don’t be putting out bad info.
You are a noser if you start your whole process from behind ccb. Doesn’t matter which eye you are using.
OK, but it would be nice if Stan could tell us why any of this matters.
 
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