+ On the two way shots not being slop. That hedging is my favorite part of the game and something I miss with 10 ball.
9 Ball Hitting Hard and Hoping as a Strategy
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+ On the two way shots not being slop. That hedging is my favorite part of the game and something I miss with 10 ball.
On bangerating; not just hard but eyes closed too.
I hate when a game limits me to calling one outcome when I may recognize the likelihood of multiple good things maybe happening. Kinda like the odds getting very favorable when three hands or more might fill in poker. What if we had to write down one hand and if one of the others filled it wouldn't count? Same thing!
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Wow, those rules are outright ridiculous. Our leagues are played on 9' tables and even the player with the lowest skill level have to play WPA 9-ball rules. There are no handicaps whatsoever and everybody is fine with it.
600 Fargo players do not bang & hope. 550 Fargos do not bang and hope. Even 500 Fargos do not bang & hope. 450 Fargo maybe. Either you’re lying or can’t clock players. Go watch Sky’s 32K 9B valley match when he was a kid. It appears he’s banging but if you pay attention he’s controlling the rock extremely well.
I wouldn't call it "harder". You only really need the chops to drop a ball or two and run away at a time. Knowing patterns is moot when a rack win only provides a single 1pt (2pt 9ball).
A strong 9 baller will run away with a match. However it isn't a difficult task to grind out a win against a stronger opponent if you pick your spots and focus on ball count rather than rack wins.
No it's pretty hard for most
Let’s not even talk about slop in 8-ball…
REAL 9b was invented as a gambling game. That league points format has nothing to do with actual 9ball. If you like it, great.
Love playing against sloppy players!Let’s not even talk about slop in 8-ball…
Yep.
They’re the same ones that will shoot at a low percentage early nine-ball combo rather than take an easy four ball out…
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I have a little more respect for the caliber of game of most my opponents.
I prefer staying at the table and keeping my opponent in their chair.
That being said I will get a little wild if my opponent is an outright banger.
Not much to lose.
I guess it's easier to attribute to luck when a player that they think they are "as good as", does something they couldn't see. Or do! Fine with me.So if a player gets beat by the lucky banger.... maybe, just maybe they really aren't the B+ player they think they are.
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I call it "Pound and Pray." Used to play with one guy whose 9 ball advice to everyone is "Hit it as hard as you can, something might go in." His go to strategy and when something does drop he loves to shout "Minnesota Fats taught me that shot!" Needless to say whenever he asks to play me I always say "Sure, but I only play 10 ball".
ok... not worth arguing. "Most" is the great disclaimer.
It's easier to make a ball and runaway then it is plan and execute a full rack. I'll leave it at that.
So what's the difference with "a strong 9 ball player" running away with a match (running racks, I presume) and running enuf balls to beat the number your opponent has to get to? It requires skill to make shots, and work patterns. And the stronger player should have no issue doing the hiding if he doesn't have a shot...
But of course it's APA so it must be bad. BCA 8 ball scoring is point based, so it must not be "real 8 ball" either, right?
That actually makes alot of sense to me, gamblers aren't looking for a challenge
Heck, one even told me I want the easiest game/weight for me to win.
Your problem is not your opponents' luck or strategy. Your problem is that you don't play good enough to earn your opponents respect. Your opponent is not worried that you might runout after they miss.
Because of this, your opponent feels confident that they can miss a few shots per rack and still win. So why wouldn't they fire away at a few hail-mary shots? It only speeds up the game for them and they are sure they will win regardless of the shot outcome.
Stop worrying about your opponents and start worrying about yourself. Practice up so you can punish your opponent after they miss. Or better yet, you won't give them any chances to shoot in the first place.
Good luck bud!
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I don't think it's harder, in fact for good players it's way easier, no need to worry about running out most of the rack and leaving the 8 or 9 for the other guy. Less pressure. In a "real" game you need to actually win the game not just make more shots, especially when giving up a bunch of weight, I have played a lot of matches with like a 6-2 handicap, and seeing a player tap in a 9 or an 8 and 9 hanging for them to get to the hill on one shot is not fun. There is a lot of pressure to play at the top of the game for the better player, except in APA where making the 9 is just a 2 point gain instead of a win. I could let some 3 or 4 make the 9 every time, technically lose every game, but still win because I can outshot them in the rest of the balls made.
I played a doubles event with my son on a tight table, the other players were way worse than us, it was a 5-3 race and we lost hill-hill, because we would run out the rack to the 8 or 9, just barely miss and leave them an easy shot. We made 90% of the shots in the set but they won because the shots they made were the game winning ones that were sitting in pockets for them. With APA rules they would have lost like 60-8 or something. Making the 9 early is not that common in games, a lot more common is leaving the last few balls sitting easy for the opponent.