Racking your own in money games

Willowbrook Wolfy

Willowbrook Wolfy

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I hate rack your own. I can understand in tournament play. If you are racking funny you probably get caught. Lately I’m running into more players wanting to play for something. But half of them want “rack your own”. When gambling I hate racking my own. Feels like a loss and gets me out of stride. I win-you rack. You win-I rack. You rack me bad twice-we are done(unless I’m way up) Any thoughts on this one?
 
What does it matter, I do not gss as male got much. Even if I do not rack, I still look at rack.

People cheat & shark for bragging rights.

Some people hate loosing anything.
 
Racking your own is part of the deal,
that's why it is recommended when in the really big big stakes game to have an assignee (butler) rack (table set) your balls.
The shooter maintaining their in-state for the winning in and out shot(s) are what the wagering fans expect, butlers have their fan base also.
...it's a vison thing.
 
In my neck of the woods, money games are almost always rack your own. Knocking them around in a friendly is always loser racks, for the embarrassment.


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Willowbrook Wolfy said:
I hate rack your own. I can understand in tournament play. If you are racking funny you probably get caught. Lately I’m running into more players wanting to play for something. But half of them want “rack your own”. When gambling I hate racking my own. Feels like a loss and gets me out of stride. I win-you rack. You win-I rack. You rack me bad twice-we are done(unless I’m way up) Any thoughts on this one?
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Loser racks, but they must use a template, and you have the right to inspect placement of the template as well as placement of the balls once they are placed in the template. If you’re gambling for a decent amount of $, it only makes sense, as for higher skill level players, the break is an extremely critical part of the game.

If you know your opponent and you know they are going to give you good racks just as you would give them, then it’s not necessary to check.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Loser racks, but they must use a template, and you have the right to inspect placement of the template as well as placement of the balls once they are placed in the template. If you’re gambling for a decent amount of $, it only makes sense, as for higher skill level players, the break is an extremely critical part of the game.

If you know your opponent and you know they are going to give you good racks just as you would give them, then it’s not necessary to check.
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In response to the bolded part. If you know and presumably trust your opponent, why not just rack your own? If you don't trust them, I'd advise not playing them for money.
 
If gambling and we're playing 9 ball (which rarely is my game of choice), then you can rack your own... but we are playing 9ball, last ball.
8 ball or 10ball, always rack your own. You only hurting yourself by giving a bad rack.
 
easy-e said:
If you know and presumably trust your opponent, why not just rack your own?
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Because it speeds up the time between games, not to mention the winner of the previous game shouldn’t have the chore of racking the balls - it’s kind of your penance for losing the previous game.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Because it speeds up the time between games, not to mention the winner of the previous game shouldn’t have the chore of racking the balls.
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Maybe it's a regional thing. Out here in AZ it seems most people prefer to rack their own. I know I do. It also gives me nobody to blame but myself for a shitty rack. :)
 
IMO, for anyone under an A player that might only run one out of 20 racks, rack your own vs opponent rack makes zero difference in the outcome of the game, except for 2 scenarios:

1) In 9 ball, if the 9 goes in on the break. For this reason I like opponent rack, as I'm not an A player. And if rack your own, it should be 9 doesn't count in bottom 2 pockets in this scenerio. Anything beyond that, such as totol slug rack with the 1 ball a half inch from the next row, to a wired wing ball, etc, makes no difference. The players can't get out anyway.

2) In one pocket, even for C level players, the break should be rack your own. Its too easy if you don't know what you are doing (or you do, and do it on purpose for your opponent), to have the corner ball come out and kiss the CB if you don't rack them right. Also, that is limited knowledge, and you should not give away your racking knowledge to your opponent if he doesn't know that, by instructing him how to correct the rack if he's racking for you.
 
If you are the better player, let the customer do whatever they want.

Allow rack your own, 9 balls spot. Less headaches, less arguments.

Rack your own only matters if the guy can consistently do 3 things:
1)make the wing ball on the break
2)control where the 1 and cueball end up to get an opening shot
3)actually run out the remaining 8 or less balls

So unless you are playing a champion, it doesn't matter.
 
The first rack your own tournament I played in was 9 ball race to...... maybe 5-7, winner breaks. On the initial break My opponent snapped the 9. I hadn't looked, this time I looked and noticed the slightest gap in the back. Didn't object. Whack! The nine goes straight for the corner again, getting knocked off line mid way. Leaving the 9 close to the corner.
My solution was... don't let him break again. It worked!🤷😉
 
gregcantrall said:
The first rack your own tournament I played in was 9 ball race to...... maybe 5-7, winner breaks. On the initial break My opponent snapped the 9. I hadn't looked, this time I looked and noticed the slightest gap in the back. Didn't object. Whack! The nine goes straight for the corner again, getting knocked off line mid way. Leaving the 9 close to the corner.
My solution was... don't let him break again. It worked!🤷😉
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I did notify the tournament director of his racking ability, after the match.🤔
 
ChrisinNC said:
Because it speeds up the time between games, not to mention the winner of the previous game shouldn’t have the chore of racking the balls - it’s kind of your penance for losing the previous game.
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Rack your own/alternate break doesn't bother me too much, as it's ultimately more "fair" - but I have the above mentality also, which I guess is a bit old school. For me, this is the real advantage of template racks for 9b/10b/8b - for the most part, ensures a good rack and takes guesswork/arguments out of break outcomes, while allowing traditional loser rack format.
 
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