You could probably trade it but you will have to give some weight
Just got kicked out from tourney
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An extra slice of American cheese?
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
I play in a small local bar tournament. It is a mix of bar bangers and league players. Nobody worries about ratings. We just play for fun and to support the bar. We play league rules and no handicapping. Many of the old school guys that used to piss and moan every time they saw us play league rules now enjoy playing either way. Even got a couple to join the league. This is not a big money deal. It's just a bunch of locals getting together for some fun, a little challenge, and some beer money. If the same guy came in and won every week, many would probably stop participating.
All agree with our rule that if you win two weeks in a row, you have to take a week or two break.
there was/ is a road player routinely running over tournaments and this rule came up, but after one night of 4 players leaving upon seeing he was playing they just went ahead and banned him, driving away money
It’s cool you guys are having fun and supporting pool/bar. That’s the main thing.
I really respect that
Fatboy
DeeDeeCues
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In my experience, if you were asked to not return, there are likely other factors. Maybe it is because you didn't tip the TD, in which case eff him. It is a practice I agree with, but not always. I'm usually friends with the TD after a few tourneys and it gets awkward to offer friends cash. They get booze, tho. So do a lot of my opponents.
The bigger thing that you should have realized long ago is that leisure activities are still transactional. If people aren't having fun, they will leave, or in this case, remove the reason they aren't having fun.
If you want a chance at being allowed to be at a tourney and winning almost always, you need to pay for it somehow. Be the nicest, humblest guy there. Show up early and buy a few drinks for people. Stay late and play scotch doubles. Root for the nicest bad player and take a genuine interest in his game. Take a week off every month and ask who won while you were gone, buy that dude a drink and talk to him about the win.
As Simon and Garfunkel said, 'keep the customer satisfied.'
The bigger thing that you should have realized long ago is that leisure activities are still transactional. If people aren't having fun, they will leave, or in this case, remove the reason they aren't having fun.
If you want a chance at being allowed to be at a tourney and winning almost always, you need to pay for it somehow. Be the nicest, humblest guy there. Show up early and buy a few drinks for people. Stay late and play scotch doubles. Root for the nicest bad player and take a genuine interest in his game. Take a week off every month and ask who won while you were gone, buy that dude a drink and talk to him about the win.
As Simon and Garfunkel said, 'keep the customer satisfied.'
When I was young I was the favorite at many amateur events and If I could win it pretty much every time, I would only show up about once a month instead of wearing out my welcome. If I lost then I would come until I won it and stay away for a month or so. You milked that cow until it got sore.
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wacokid9ball
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Buy a doughnut cushion, It sounds like your really butt-hurt. Please be honest and tell us what your fargo rating is. You say it's not 700, but it could be a little less.
I would just go and talk to the tournament director about being allowed to play again but play left hand.
I read the first and last pages, skipped the middle. There are always some malcontents that are never going to be winners, they don't put the time and effort in. However, they figure if they can get rid of a few guys then they can win. They spend their time bitching to the owner about the best. The owner gets tired of listening to the bitching and takes action. Of course the whiners are soon crying about somebody else, just the way the dance goes.
I wanted to play the first big tournament a place had near my shop. I didn't know what outsiders they would pull in but I knew there was a good chance I would blow through his regulars like a dose of the salts. When the owner asked if I was playing I told him no and told him why. I might flash back on those old bar tables and his regulars feel screwed. The idea of tournaments and other extra activities is to build business, not tear it down.
I won several pool tournaments every time I played in them. A little cash and admittedly nice to show I could still play a little. Each time I went away, me dominating the field wasn't in the interest of the place.
Once I was just gambling on a challenge table. Held it all night, made a decent score. Next time I came in there a few weeks later there were a half dozen challenges on the table. I played a couple games, the people took the other challenges down. Tried again a month later. There were a half dozen challenges on the table. The people just came and took down their money. They had seen the rodeo once and that was enough. I didn't get mad about it, I was stupid and clumsy the first time. It was a direction I didn't usually travel and I was out of work. I had let the ponies run. Thing was, I killed the cow first trip when I could have milked it for years.
If you are enjoying playing a tournament and winning, come in and drop a few tournaments. A little stalling might pay dividends gambling anyway. Don't be obnoxious but try to make sure your presence and going out early is noted. Got to contribute a little, not always be a taker.
Other things than pool, I always bought into cash options even when I knew I wouldn't be cashing right now. I felt sure I would cash later and wanted people to remember I was a player even when I wasn't winning.
You have to feed the fish sometimes. That is better than just staying away. You can still have a beer or two and visit around.
To the OP, too late for this place but it won't be the last place you are banned for winning too much unless you do it with a little discretion!
Hu
I wanted to play the first big tournament a place had near my shop. I didn't know what outsiders they would pull in but I knew there was a good chance I would blow through his regulars like a dose of the salts. When the owner asked if I was playing I told him no and told him why. I might flash back on those old bar tables and his regulars feel screwed. The idea of tournaments and other extra activities is to build business, not tear it down.
I won several pool tournaments every time I played in them. A little cash and admittedly nice to show I could still play a little. Each time I went away, me dominating the field wasn't in the interest of the place.
Once I was just gambling on a challenge table. Held it all night, made a decent score. Next time I came in there a few weeks later there were a half dozen challenges on the table. I played a couple games, the people took the other challenges down. Tried again a month later. There were a half dozen challenges on the table. The people just came and took down their money. They had seen the rodeo once and that was enough. I didn't get mad about it, I was stupid and clumsy the first time. It was a direction I didn't usually travel and I was out of work. I had let the ponies run. Thing was, I killed the cow first trip when I could have milked it for years.
If you are enjoying playing a tournament and winning, come in and drop a few tournaments. A little stalling might pay dividends gambling anyway. Don't be obnoxious but try to make sure your presence and going out early is noted. Got to contribute a little, not always be a taker.
Other things than pool, I always bought into cash options even when I knew I wouldn't be cashing right now. I felt sure I would cash later and wanted people to remember I was a player even when I wasn't winning.
You have to feed the fish sometimes. That is better than just staying away. You can still have a beer or two and visit around.
To the OP, too late for this place but it won't be the last place you are banned for winning too much unless you do it with a little discretion!
Hu
Well being good is handicap in Valley of Sun.
Long ago Mike Howerton did Desert Classic Tour, so the better player had 8-10 event open to them with good purses.
But that ended. Even got player coming to AZ to play in some of events.
Exactly! Handicap yourself, play off-handed at most events. Buy drinks and tip the workers good. Give back to the bar and community. Give good advice when folks ask for it.
Yep.
Just apologize for hustling the field and just ask the director if you can play left handed.
OH LORD......Norma Rae over here....
Well if you don’t feel welcome, or are not treated fair don’t support the venue.
It called voting with your money. We have two little tournaments a week where I live.
One is open singles, the other is team event A & B player.
Entry is picket change, its just fun competition.
I personally never play as I do not like 8 ball.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
If you've won 17/21 times, you're way too good for the tournament. This is no fault of your own. They could handicap it, put a bounty on you (like $100 for beating you and make it into a fun experience). It would be a lot of extra work for a director to accommodate you. I'd just take it as a no hard feelings but you're too good for the group they are courting. It would be like a high school basketball player going to play the kids in the elementary school for their lunch money after school.
Seek open tournaments with better players.
Your strategy was all wrong. This tourney was too easy, and you viewed it as free money. Come on? 17 out of 21. With that in mind, to not get kicked out you should have taken some 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths....spread the wealth a bit while still making some money on your investment. You don't slaughter the lambs...you sheer them. You've got to feed a fish. Lesson learned for the future.
I agree with this 100%.
The OP could be a dickhead for crushing the competition because he is competitive and good. At the same time it is just a game and no need to crush the field. He is not good at spreading the wealth.
Now if the OP wasn't a dickhead and a hustler then he did something wrong. He crushed the competition and got kicked out when he could have lost a few tourneys to keep everyone happy while also taking money from them too.
Failed on every level.
He definitely doesn't have a hustler's mindset. He's just a strong competitor and enjoys the thrill of the kill apparently, and not the money. I wouldn't be insulting with him...just an opportunity and experience to learn from. Note: The BEST hustler I ever knew made more money gambling at strictly pool a year than most pros, and this guy was barely a C+ player....but an A+++ hustler.