Judd and Ronnie
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"He said he could fight.
Agreed.Nice guys finish last.
"On the fields of friendly strife, are sown the seeds"(USAFA knowledge)
IMHO, Ronnie is demonstrating his Number 1 Attitude. Letting Judd know, not to let up. He wanted so bad to shoot the next back at him. If Judd is to be his Successor he will need to bring it.
So to whine later is a Childish look.
Just the facts, Mam.
I just thought the English still played snooker like Gentlemen. I know , I know,... Ronnie is Irish.
As I had an Irish grandmother, I resemble that remark.
As for the gentleman stuff, I think Ronnie is far more of a gentleman in the important matters around the game than some of players who seem to have better manners.
I don`t know. It seems like giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Perhaps it is all perspective. I'll explain:
During the 1st World War, flying a plane,(a bi-plane), was considered risky and dangerous. Pilots were heroes for just flying the damn things. Now to go and maneuver a plane to take advantage of the enemy plane is a trip into the unknown,.
For this reason; Both German AND English military would give an enemy shot down over their territory a funeral. Clearly out of respect.
So, if you are in a "tight" situation where the outcome is unknown,(ie: shoot perfect or not?), then would you not tend to acknowledge even an enemy out of respect for the feat?
Perhaps Ronnie expects his opponents to play perfect EVERY frame?? Maybe that is why he feels disappointed when he does not place 1st, and gives away his trophy?
Today, you can say "We sent a man to the moon" Some say "so what?"
BUT consider this:
That was done BEFORE the era of the computer.
no computers, no calculators, no TECH.
They did it with slide-rules and Physics. Radios and TV's had vacuum tubes then!
PERSPECTIVE
Ronnie does plenty of "gamesmanship".
Watch him run to the table and almost move the opponent out of the way as whitey heads to balk after a safety. By the same token if Ronnie shoots a safety and whitey is rolling to freeze on the the cushion or snuggle up behind a interfering ball Ronnie stands there as a exclamation point.
Many others have said Ronnie as a front runner is brutal to play against. He has a air of superiority about him and almost seems to say ok prove yourself.
All that being said and there is no one playing any cuegame I would rather watch.
Judd is the current heir to the Rockets throne but some young player from the east may be next.
Watch him run to the table and almost move the opponent out of the way as whitey heads to balk after a safety. By the same token if Ronnie shoots a safety and whitey is rolling to freeze on the the cushion or snuggle up behind a interfering ball Ronnie stands there as a exclamation point.
Many others have said Ronnie as a front runner is brutal to play against. He has a air of superiority about him and almost seems to say ok prove yourself.
All that being said and there is no one playing any cuegame I would rather watch.
Judd is the current heir to the Rockets throne but some young player from the east may be next.
DeeDeeCues
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NASA definitely used computers in their moon missions.
Once again..... Perspective. Your response is a perfect example.
YES, computers were used back in the 1960's BUT.........
They were used primarily for storing and collating,(correlation)
"Computers" didn't make any complicated "Computations" then. They ran on 2 types of markup language; primarily Fortran & Cobol.
"C" was not even available yet.
What changed all of that was the integrated circuit and availability of RAM.
The electronic calculator was not available commercially until early 1970's (and they were ex$pensive)
A $3 calculator in a dollar store today could make more calculations than a computer from the 1960's , and do it faster.
DeeDeeCues
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Your information on computers is vastly different than mine. Computers definitely were not storage devices in the seventies. They printed everything out because storage basically didn't exist.
What NASA had wasn't analogous to the TI red led calculator.
My apologies to the OP for going a bit off topic.
The point I was trying to stress was how "ballsy" it was to put a man on the moon with rudimentary technology.
In your response; I agree, but you talk about the 70's , and I am talking late 60's. Sixties computers did not "computate", they arranged information to make it more relevant. Information was saved on magnetic tape and punch cards. The 70's was when RAM became available and opened a new way to use computers. The seventies were indeed much different from the sixties.
The academics were using ALGOL in the 1960s and doing algorithms and complex calculations. I started an ALGOL course about 1966 but it was decided that I should enlist instead, so I never got as far as punching cards. But I agree that the vast majority of commercial computers were doing inventory and billing since that's where the money was, especially for IBM. It seems that ALGOL was the parent of C.
By 1972 academic computers were doing serious simulations and calculations. The CDC 6400 on campus allowed programs as large as 64k words of memory.
FORTRAN 66 was the primary language.As for Ronnie not congratulating Judd, maybe he didn't like the way Judd ran the balls.
See ENIAC, MANIAC, IBM 601, 602, 701. CDC 6600. They were doing calculations for thermonuclear weapon design among other major problems of the day.
DeeDeeCues
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When I was taking computer programming in college they said that the first thing the Pentagon did with their first computer was ballistics calculations for artillery. Sending a man to the moon is about 80% ballistics.
Well, I'm sure both Judd and Ronnie are still friends professionally.
On another note: I will just say "I know what I know." A good part of my family was IBM40.
The IBM 600 series was a vacuum tube computer. Capable of "simple" mathematic calculation.
The Pentagon may have been concerned about Ballistics, But NASA had to put men on the moon, and (most important), get them home safely.
Solving calculations for re-entry, Docking, and landing were the important issues.
BTW, CEP for a Minuteman circa mid 60's was 400 yds +or- (and that was for an 8000 mi trip across the world)
BEFORE the advent of the integrated circuit; computers were "dumb"
(i'm done pissing here)
On another note: I will just say "I know what I know." A good part of my family was IBM40.
The IBM 600 series was a vacuum tube computer. Capable of "simple" mathematic calculation.
The Pentagon may have been concerned about Ballistics, But NASA had to put men on the moon, and (most important), get them home safely.
Solving calculations for re-entry, Docking, and landing were the important issues.
BTW, CEP for a Minuteman circa mid 60's was 400 yds +or- (and that was for an 8000 mi trip across the world)
BEFORE the advent of the integrated circuit; computers were "dumb"
(i'm done pissing here)
Who knows?The academics were using ALGOL in the 1960s and doing algorithms and complex calculations. I started an ALGOL course about 1966 but it was decided that I should enlist instead, so I never got as far as punching cards. But I agree that the vast majority of commercial computers were doing inventory and billing since that's where the money was, especially for IBM. It seems that ALGOL was the parent of C.
By 1972 academic computers were doing serious simulations and calculations. The CDC 6400 on campus allowed programs as large as 64k words of memory.
As for Ronnie not congratulating Judd, maybe he didn't like the way Judd ran the balls.
Maybe it was theater... Ronnie got glued to his chair..
He couldn't get up even if he should.