European douche bags

WWE either sells out or gets close to selling out 2 arenas per week with a fan base pool could only dream of.
To be fair, half of the world's population is dumber than the AVERAGE person, so gathering a large fan base for "rasslin'" isn't really difficult.
Dumber people tend to respond "positively" to violent acts-- even if it's staged.
I think it stimulates the vast, normally unused spaces of their brains.
The chaos probably reminds them of their home-life too--- so it's familiar to them.
(Superhero blockbuster movie franchises also love these folks btw, as does Trump).
Ignorance breeds ignorance, it's been that way since day 1.
But hey, to each his own! The planet is filled with variety and that's what makes it interesting, right?
 
Long time no read!

I did not care for the antics mimicking the crowd at the end of the Earl v. Jayson match. It didn't seem fun at all. I realize this is an exhibition for pool. I think both players, Joshua and Jayson, are strong and champions, but when they get like this, I don't care for it. Maybe some do. I'm sure I'm in the minority. :p

100% agree!
 
To be fair, half of the world's population is dumber than the AVERAGE person, so gathering a large fan base for "rasslin'" isn't really difficult.
Dumber people tend to respond "positively" to violent acts-- even if it's staged.
I think it stimulates the vast, normally unused spaces of their brains.
The chaos probably reminds them of their home-life too--- so it's familiar to them.
(Superhero blockbuster movie franchises also love these folks btw, as does Trump).
Ignorance breeds ignorance, it's been that way since day 1.
But hey, to each his own! The planet is filled with variety and that's what makes it interesting, right?
Sounds like the kid that never got picked to play football. Whatta 'flake answer.
 
To be fair, half of the world's population is dumber than the AVERAGE person, so gathering a large fan base for "rasslin'" isn't really difficult.
Dumber people tend to respond "positively" to violent acts-- even if it's staged.
I think it stimulates the vast, normally unused spaces of their brains.
The chaos probably reminds them of their home-life too--- so it's familiar to them.
(Superhero blockbuster movie franchises also love these folks btw, as does Trump).
Ignorance breeds ignorance, it's been that way since day 1.
But hey, to each his own! The planet is filled with variety and that's what makes it interesting, right?
Correct. Everyone has their things they like. Wrestling does have that "stereotypical" wrestling fan that you speak of. However more fans of mainstream wrestling (WWE and AEW) are just your average person looking for an escape and sports entertainment does it for them. There are more families at wrestling events now then ever before. Its like a superhero film in person.
 
To be fair, half of the world's population is dumber than the AVERAGE person, so gathering a large fan base for "rasslin'" isn't really difficult.
Dumber people tend to respond "positively" to violent acts-- even if it's staged.
I think it stimulates the vast, normally unused spaces of their brains.
The chaos probably reminds them of their home-life too--- so it's familiar to them.
(Superhero blockbuster movie franchises also love these folks btw, as does Trump).
Ignorance breeds ignorance, it's been that way since day 1.
But hey, to each his own! The planet is filled with variety and that's what makes it interesting, right?


I remember when my brother was in his late teens or early twenties. We went into a country honky-tonk and there at a few tables pulled together was a large group of wrestlers including a recently crowned world champion. Rusty went over to shake hands and congratulate I think one of the Funk brothers. He was thrilled to be invited to sit with them and have a beer or two.

Rusty was well documented to be smarter than 99% of us, so much for stereotypes!

Hu
 
I was saddened to read yesterday a post by Jayson's other half who said social media trolls were writing mean-spirited words about her children—her children!—and some very disparaging words about Jayson. I felt her pain. Of course, she loves her family, but to read things written by sometimes people you don't even know that are untruths and/or sometimes vulgar, which she has endured, it's just wrong in all respects. 😞

I personally have taken a great deal of heat on this very forum and went into attack mode many, many times when members would write disparaging things about my other half. Today I am older and realize I should have never engaged with trolls, banned members posting, and haters, for lack of a better word, but because of that experience, I know all too well what it's like to be on the receiving end of these verbal assaults. I'm still disliked on this forum by many because of my actions defending me and mine. Would I do it again? Knowing how social media affects people today, I would not. The U.S. Surgeon General has stated numerous times how social media bullying and trolls is affecting mental health today of many people because of how they interpret the words written. 😯

In a post-Mosconi Cup interview with Spanish Champion David Alcaide, he told the interviewer that social media has been cruel to his family and children, and that it has affected them. I immediately felt a sense of identity with his stance. He doesn't post much anymore. In fact, at one time, the Matchroom managing director expressed to all pool pros to get on social media and Instagram and be active on social media. Then a year or two later, things changed. The Matchroom managing director deactivated their Facebook account for a while, and today I see much less Facebook activity by some of the pool pros. Is it because of the bullying and trolls targeting them? I'm not sure, but if it is, I get it. :cry:

Is Jayson Shaw a good guy? I think he is, but like some men are wont to doing, he does his think in sports arena when they win. Jayson is animated because he's on center stage. Maybe Matchroom encourages it. I'm not sure. But both Jayson and Joshua Filler have received a great deal of criticism for their tableside antics after a win. Men and their stupid testosterone. You don't see us ladies doing that. :giggle:

In Filler's defense, it warmed my heart to see him comfort Tyler Styer at the end of their match when Styer missed the straight-in 8-ball. It was heart-felt, and you could see Joshua was trying to give respect to Tyler. He said, "I'm sorry," to him and some other words we may never know. But it was real emotion. I remember a few Mosconi Cups ago—can't remember which one—Joshua missed a ball and gave USA a win. I saw him emotional in his chair, with tears welling up in his eyes, trying to contain himself. It hurts to lose in that manner when it's on your shoulders. But the way Filler handled himself at the conclusion of this year's Mosconi Cup, well, that's the kind of emotion I like to see. Bravo to Joshua Filler, very deserving of his MVP. As far as Jayson Shaw goes, I think we only see one side of him and draw conclusions based on his antics. There is another side to the man, and I sincerely wish him and his family the best in life. This pool racket is a tough business. Believe me, I know, and there ain't nothing better than Home Sweet Home. 😉
 
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I was saddened to read yesterday a post by Jayson's other half who said social media trolls were writing mean-spirited words about her children—her children!—and some very disparaging words about Jayson. I felt her pain. Of course, she loves her family, but to read things written by sometimes people you don't even know that are untruths and/or sometimes vulgar, which she has endured, it's just wrong in all respects. 😞

I personally have taken a great deal of heat on this very forum and went into attack mode many, many times when members would write disparaging things about my other half. Today I am older and realize I should have never engaged with trolls, banned members posting, and haters, for lack of a better word, but because of that experience, I know all too well what it's like to be on the receiving end of these verbal assaults. I'm still disliked on this forum by many because of my actions defending me and mine. Would I do it again? Knowing how social media affects people today, I would not. The U.S. Surgeon General has stated numerous times how social media bullying and trolls is affecting mental health today of many people because of how they interpret the words written. 😯

In a post-Mosconi Cup interview with Spanish Champion David Alcaide, he told the interviewer that social media has been cruel to his family and children, and that it has affected them. I immediately felt a sense of identity with his stance. He doesn't post much anymore. In fact, at one time, the Matchroom managing director expressed to all pool pros to get on social media and Instagram and be active on social media. Then a year or two later, things changed. The Matchroom managing director deactivated their Facebook account for a while, and today I see much less Facebook activity by some of the pool pros. Is it because of the bullying and trolls targeting them? I'm not sure, but if it is, I get it. :cry:

Is Jayson Shaw a good guy? I think he is, but like some men are wont to doing, he does his think in sports arena when they win. Jayson is animated because he's on center stage. Maybe Matchroom encourages it. I'm not sure. But both Jayson and Joshua Filler have received a great deal of criticism for their tableside antics after a win. Men and their stupid testosterone. You don't see us ladies doing that. :giggle:

In Filler's defense, it warmed my heart to see him comfort Tyler Styer at the end of their match when Styer missed the straight-in 8-ball. It was heart-felt, and you could see Joshua was trying to give respect to Tyler. He said, "I'm sorry," to him and some other words we may never know. But it was real emotion. I remember a few Mosconi Cups ago—can't remember which one—Joshua missed a ball and gave USA a win. I saw him emotional in his chair, with tears welling up in his eyes, trying to contain himself. It hurts to lose in that manner when it's on your shoulders. But the way Filler handled himself at the conclusion of this year's Mosconi Cup, well, that's the kind of emotion I like to see. Bravo to Joshua Filler, very deserving of his MVP. As far as Jayson Shaw goes, I think we only see one side of him and draw conclusions based on his antics. There is another side to the man, and I sincerely wish him and his family the best in life. This pool racket is a tough business. Believe me, I know, and there ain't nothing better than Home Sweet Home. 😉
Well said. 😎
 
I was saddened to read yesterday a post by Jayson's other half who said social media trolls were writing mean-spirited words about her children—her children!—and some very disparaging words about Jayson. I felt her pain. Of course, she loves her family, but to read things written by sometimes people you don't even know that are untruths and/or sometimes vulgar, which she has endured, it's just wrong in all respects. 😞

I personally have taken a great deal of heat on this very forum and went into attack mode many, many times when members would write disparaging things about my other half. Today I am older and realize I should have never engaged with trolls, banned members posting, and haters, for lack of a better word, but because of that experience, I know all too well what it's like to be on the receiving end of these verbal assaults. I'm still disliked on this forum by many because of my actions defending me and mine. Would I do it again? Knowing how social media affects people today, I would not. The U.S. Surgeon General has stated numerous times how social media bullying and trolls is affecting mental health today of many people because of how they interpret the words written. 😯

In a post-Mosconi Cup interview with Spanish Champion David Alcaide, he told the interviewer that social media has been cruel to his family and children, and that it has affected them. I immediately felt a sense of identity with his stance. He doesn't post much anymore. In fact, at one time, the Matchroom managing director expressed to all pool pros to get on social media and Instagram and be active on social media. Then a year or two later, things changed. The Matchroom managing director deactivated their Facebook account for a while, and today I see much less Facebook activity by some of the pool pros. Is it because of the bullying and trolls targeting them? I'm not sure, but if it is, I get it. :cry:

Is Jayson Shaw a good guy? I think he is, but like some men are wont to doing, he does his think in sports arena when they win. Jayson is animated because he's on center stage. Maybe Matchroom encourages it. I'm not sure. But both Jayson and Joshua Filler have received a great deal of criticism for their tableside antics after a win. Men and their stupid testosterone. You don't see us ladies doing that. :giggle:

In Filler's defense, it warmed my heart to see him comfort Tyler Styer at the end of their match when Styer missed the straight-in 8-ball. It was heart-felt, and you could see Joshua was trying to give respect to Tyler. He said, "I'm sorry," to him and some other words we may never know. But it was real emotion. I remember a few Mosconi Cups ago—can't remember which one—Joshua missed a ball and gave USA a win. I saw him emotional in his chair, with tears welling up in his eyes, trying to contain himself. It hurts to lose in that manner when it's on your shoulders. But the way Filler handled himself at the conclusion of this year's Mosconi Cup, well, that's the kind of emotion I like to see. Bravo to Joshua Filler, very deserving of his MVP. As far as Jayson Shaw goes, I think we only see one side of him and draw conclusions based on his antics. There is another side to the man, and I sincerely wish him and his family the best in life. This pool racket is a tough business. Believe me, I know, and there ain't nothing better than Home Sweet Home. 😉
I've met Jayson a couple of times and he was always cool with me. I think some people take Mosconi Cup waaaaay too seriously.
 
I was saddened to read yesterday a post by Jayson's other half who said social media trolls were writing mean-spirited words about her children—her children!—and some very disparaging words about Jayson. I felt her pain. Of course, she loves her family, but to read things written by sometimes people you don't even know that are untruths and/or sometimes vulgar, which she has endured, it's just wrong in all respects. 😞

I personally have taken a great deal of heat on this very forum and went into attack mode many, many times when members would write disparaging things about my other half. Today I am older and realize I should have never engaged with trolls, banned members posting, and haters, for lack of a better word, but because of that experience, I know all too well what it's like to be on the receiving end of these verbal assaults. I'm still disliked on this forum by many because of my actions defending me and mine. Would I do it again? Knowing how social media affects people today, I would not. The U.S. Surgeon General has stated numerous times how social media bullying and trolls is affecting mental health today of many people because of how they interpret the words written. 😯

In a post-Mosconi Cup interview with Spanish Champion David Alcaide, he told the interviewer that social media has been cruel to his family and children, and that it has affected them. I immediately felt a sense of identity with his stance. He doesn't post much anymore. In fact, at one time, the Matchroom managing director expressed to all pool pros to get on social media and Instagram and be active on social media. Then a year or two later, things changed. The Matchroom managing director deactivated their Facebook account for a while, and today I see much less Facebook activity by some of the pool pros. Is it because of the bullying and trolls targeting them? I'm not sure, but if it is, I get it. :cry:

Is Jayson Shaw a good guy? I think he is, but like some men are wont to doing, he does his think in sports arena when they win. Jayson is animated because he's on center stage. Maybe Matchroom encourages it. I'm not sure. But both Jayson and Joshua Filler have received a great deal of criticism for their tableside antics after a win. Men and their stupid testosterone. You don't see us ladies doing that. :giggle:

In Filler's defense, it warmed my heart to see him comfort Tyler Styer at the end of their match when Styer missed the straight-in 8-ball. It was heart-felt, and you could see Joshua was trying to give respect to Tyler. He said, "I'm sorry," to him and some other words we may never know. But it was real emotion. I remember a few Mosconi Cups ago—can't remember which one—Joshua missed a ball and gave USA a win. I saw him emotional in his chair, with tears welling up in his eyes, trying to contain himself. It hurts to lose in that manner when it's on your shoulders. But the way Filler handled himself at the conclusion of this year's Mosconi Cup, well, that's the kind of emotion I like to see. Bravo to Joshua Filler, very deserving of his MVP. As far as Jayson Shaw goes, I think we only see one side of him and draw conclusions based on his antics. There is another side to the man, and I sincerely wish him and his family the best in life. This pool racket is a tough business. Believe me, I know, and there ain't nothing better than Home Sweet Home. 😉
I know Jayson very well. He is a great person, husband, and father. He will give you the shirt off his back without hesitation. He is funny and doesn't take himself seriously at all. As an example, here is a quick story.

Back in January of 2021, he ran a 10 ball pro-am tournament at his pool room. I don't remember how many players were entered but the place was packed. I played in the tournament (well, I made a donation to the prize pool lol) and my girlfriend came with me to watch. About 6 hours or so in, she asked me to order her a cheeseburger. Jayson was in between matches so he was behind the bar taking orders. He takes my order and says he will bring it over. About 40 minutes go by and no cheeseburger. I go back over to the bar and he looks at me and goes 'OH F***"! He totally forgot but took care of it right away. No big deal because we all thought it was funny. Fast forward a couple of hours later. I had just gotten knocked out and realized I hadn't eaten all day. He's walking by after finishing up his match and asks if he can get us anything and I order cheeseburger. He thought I was kidding at first but I assured him that this one was for me. 45 minutes go by and no cheeseburger. As I get up to go place the order again with Ara or Sue (Ara's mom), he's walking towards me. He saw me, smacks his forehead with his hand, turns around, and starts my order. He forgot mine too! To this day it's a running joke with us.

His public persona is the complete opposite of who he really is and it pisses me off that people take him so seriously that they would attack him, Ara and their family.
 
When you are in the public eye you are also somewhat in the public domain. That is why libel and such is a bit different for politicians for example. Years ago I raced dirt track in cars. I met other drivers halfway, trying to be scrupulously clean with clean drivers while being as rough as those that were into dirt track as a contact sport! It was funny to realize that fans took things very seriously sometimes. One of my fans was going to beat up another driver because of incidents between the other driver and myself on the track. Took awhile to persuade the fan that the other driver and I were cool, I had been at his shop the night before helping with his car.

Today's pool players, even Keith and those that haven't been active for quite awhile are somewhat fair game although it is hard to see it that way when you are close to someone. Children, significant others, these people should be off limits unless they enter into the fray first. Don't attack someone I love and expect me to remain silent. However, that does make me fair game too.

Things are usually far more mellow between competitors than fans realize. Like schoolmates they can harass each other pretty mightily in fun because of the background relationship that fans don't know about. Some wear their hearts on their sleeves and do and say foolish things in the heat of battle too.

Stuff happens! Making a mistake that costs you a victory bites. It bites a whole lot more if it costs a team victory. Some forms of competition have made rules giving competitors two or five minutes to cool off after a loss. However, that is when the most interesting comments are made and it is more common to have a mike stuck in your face while the fires of hell are still burning inside. A competitor may say something they regret ten minutes later.

The competitor burns off much of their emotion in competition. Fans, friends, and family don't have this outlet and their emotions often last far longer than the competitor's. We need to take our cue from the competitors involved and often that means just chill.

I have to admit I haven't always followed my own advice!

Hu
 
wasn't that hatch?
I remember Hatch refusing to shake (maybe Filler's hand)...possibly it was Filler's 1st ever MC? Also remember that every time Hatch won, he would do the old double biceps flex. I don't remember anyone ever having a problem with him...
 
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This is the first post I’ve made in here in quite a while. Just had to comment on how douchey Jayson Shaw and Joshua Filler are acting.

Do these clowns know just how insignificant they really are
Strongly disagree!

Be mindful of who you disparage.

All players are people.
 
I remember Hatch refusing to shake (maybe Filler's hand)...possibly it was Filler's 1st ever MC? Also remember that every time Hatch won, he would do the old double biceps flex. I don't remember anyone ever having a problem with him...
It got a little frisky at the after party as well. Emotions were definitely high that year.
 
Europe has a history of loyalist traditions.
America has more freedoms.

Euros have been oppressed much longer and it shows. Calling them douches is unfair because they were systematically forced to be that way.
 
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