$1000 entry tourney at Chester's in OKC -- anyone go?

The issue with these types of events is that they are geared pretty much towards gamblers not so much just pool players.
 
I have also heard round-abouts, about people using Salotto to game their handicaps. Don't think it was a good idea to allow a 3rd party app with no oversight enter match results into a national handicap system. If people were honest, sure it would work great, more data. But there is a shortage of honest people that do the right thing vs the easy thing that suits them.

salotto is 1v1 matches, right? do the matches have to be played or can you just report match results?
 
Since you can't view other people's Fargo game results, there is no way for a person to know if their opponent (or anyone else) has used Salotto.
If you search a player's name in the Fargo app, then select View Public Matches, any matches played using the Salotto app will be visible.
 
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I think it would be pretty hard to sandbag with a minimum fargo robustness of 400 games. I like the way they set up this tournament. Good job to Barton if he was involved with min 400.

I've been trying to get a fargo rating since the thing came out. I finally, after 5 or 8 years it seems, just played in a weekly friday night tournament that reported. I have now 8 games in the system:) I just can't see how someone would play below their speed for 400 games. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
 
... I just can't see how someone would play below their speed for 400 games. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
There was a Fargo-like system here in the 1990s. A couple of guys decided to do the squeeze. They lost every -- or nearly every -- match in the weekly tournaments. They may have done so at several rooms. They showed up at the money-added quarterly event ready to rock. The TD explained to them that they would be playing at their actual ratings if they wanted to play. They didn't.

It's possible to detect that sort of stuff just from the numbers, but they were well known in the area and the other players could see what they were doing.
 
I kind of like it that way. Don't get me wrong, FargoRate is very interesting as an objective assessment of skill levels. However, I am still for the undercover road man that can take it off and move on down the road incognito. I can't articulate why, I just think that's (in Houston lingo) tight as f*ck. (Pardon my French)
the french part was funnieset
 
It's possible to detect that sort of stuff just from the numbers, but they were well known in the area and the other players could see what they were doing.
this apa 5 broke and ran one rack then cleaned up the second in 1 inning
after they wrote on the sheet 5 innings on the second game
which is why i told my captain to watch that game as was i

we send it in with 1 even tho it didnt change anything
point is
fk cheaters
 
There was a Fargo-like system here in the 1990s. A couple of guys decided to do the squeeze. They lost every -- or nearly every -- match in the weekly tournaments. They may have done so at several rooms. They showed up at the money-added quarterly event ready to rock. The TD explained to them that they would be playing at their actual ratings if they wanted to play. They didn't.

It's possible to detect that sort of stuff just from the numbers, but they were well known in the area and the other players could see what they were doing.
USPPA?
 
I just can't see how someone would play below their speed for 400 games. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
If someone wanted to do that, they'd have to play a lot of players well below their speed, unless they wanted to straight up dump matches. But in, say, a race to 7, you'd have to let a guy get to 5 instead of just the 2 or 3 he should win. Those guys are probably done by the second round, then you'd probably match up against players close enough to your speed that you can't give away games. If you lose you are out of the tournament and not putting games into your rating. Unless you wanted to straight up take a dive, again not putting games into your rating, I don't think you could shave that much off your rating. I think even 50 points would take a lot of strategy and patience.
I kind of like it that way. Don't get me wrong, FargoRate is very interesting as an objective assessment of skill levels. However, I am still for the undercover road man that can take it off and move on down the road incognito. I can't articulate why, I just think that's (in Houston lingo) tight as f*ck. (Pardon my French)
I know what you mean. I'm in no danger of getting a Fargo rating that will scare people off, so I'm not worried about blowing my cover. If my rating gets too high, I'll just tell people my name is Cesar Morales.
 
Congrats to my old pal Frank Sparkman on his runner up finish . I used to see him all the time in Lawton though we never matched up . Good job soldier !
Chuckg
 
Most Arizona players think they're underrated. :D
It's FargoRate's custom version of the fundamental attribution error.

Let's say 10 600s from AZ play 10 600s from elsewhere. Five of the AZ players win 9-5, and five lose 9-5.

The five who win say to themselves "yeah, cool...I'm doin it. I stayed down and focused...beat a 600 9-5....Let's keep it going..."
The five who lose 9-5 say to themselves.."holy crap. just got rolled by FL guy who is supposed to be a 600. No way THAT guy would be 600 in AZ..."
 
It's FargoRate's custom version of the fundamental attribution error.

Let's say 10 600s from AZ play 10 600s from elsewhere. Five of the AZ players win 9-5, and five lose 9-5.

The five who win say to themselves "yeah, cool...I'm doin it. I stayed down and focused...beat a 600 9-5....Let's keep it going..."
The five who lose 9-5 say to themselves.."holy crap. just got rolled by FL guy who is supposed to be a 600. No way THAT guy would be 600 in AZ..."
Yup. :)

Only problem with your post is that the AZ player wouldn't say it to themselves. They'd post on all social media about the sandbagger from Florida here to rob tournaments. I've seen it several times.
 
Don't think it was a good idea to allow a 3rd party app with no oversight enter match results into a national handicap system.
I agree 100%! You can easily get someone to agree to a Salotto match and input the data without even playing the match to change your Fargo rating.
 
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