Mike dechaine 2023

JolietJames said:
There are matches where it looks like Shane straight-up doesn't care. His demeanor, slouching in his chair, rushing of his shots, etc. make it look like he just wants to go home and fish (or anything besides play pool).
This is just one man's observation, but there has been more than one occasion that appeared that way to me.
I have not seen that in Sky. He almost always looks optimistic and appears to be having fun. Perhaps it's just his youth. Perhaps it is his personality. He doesn't looked stressed out and miserable like Shane often does. I believe Sky's best years are ahead of him.
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Love Sky...been watching him since early SBE days. He's 30 now and if he's going to become a worldbeater....the time is now.
 
jokrswylde said:
Yeah, but there were a couple of MR Tourneys in Europe this year, forgot which ones, where Sky gets to the quarters or semi's and plays like a king, and then comes back and lays an absolute egg the next round. I'm not talking about just getting beat, I'm talking about missing straight in shots, scratching for no reason, missing position by 2 feet. One example is when he blanked one of the KO brothers. Seemed like he had so much momentum and was finally going to break out and win one, but then comes back and looks just terrible...almost like the moment is too big for him.

I've never seen that from SVB.
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And that's what's going to happen until he gets used to winning on a world stage.
 
SBC said:
If you can't handle his action let me know. I'm ready to bet 10k anytime they play.
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It's not clear (at least to me) who you like. No action either way from me...I'm just curious. In my opinion, it's a coin flip.

I will add though, like someone else commented, Shane seems disengaged for most of his matches. Once someone reaches that point, it becomes harder and harder to turn it on when he really needs it.
 
fjk said:
It's not clear (at least to me) who you like. No action either way from me...I'm just curious. In my opinion, it's a coin flip.

I will add though, like someone else commented, Shane seems disengaged for most of his matches. Once someone reaches that point, it becomes harder and harder to turn it on when he really needs it.
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I'll take SVB
Been there and done that.

Is Sky at the Predator 8 ball?
Van Boening in top 16....1st pays 75k.
 
SBC said:
If you can't handle his action let me know. I'm ready to bet 10k anytime they play.
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SBC said:
All the pros pocket the ball to the side/middle as they like. His cueball strike gets the cueball position with precision because he's operating on the highest level amongst the very best.

Did Gareth Potts run an 8 pack of 9 ball on a Chinese 8 ball table with 3.5 inch pockets by shooting the ball to one side of the hole or the other? No. It's all cueball position, taking the most efficient path with the most natural angles off the object ball and rails.
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Uh, no, they don't. There are elite players that do, but the ones who are a level below them don't and as such, that us why they tend to lose out in final 16 and above.

And you are comparing POOL, to a game that plays a lot closer to SNOOKER. Snooker prioritizes pure shotmaking over position. Snooker is NOT a game that requires precise position in the way pool does. The balls get spread apart further, and any game that allows the balls to spread further apart, requires less and less precise position as a general rule. Pool tables are smaller than snooker, and therefore require more precise position, especially on slick tables.

I will give it to you that Chinese 8 ball prolly requires precise position just because of the difficulty of the pockets.. But there are two aspects to getting that position.. 1. Playing to a specific side of the pocket + same stroke speed, resulting in different CB ending points, and 2. Playing to the center of the pocket, and using ultra precise stroke spin + spin.

Either one of these requires playing the OB to a specific part of the pocket. #2 requires that point to be center of the pocket. The strokes needed are not the same, however. #1 in pool, is simply taking advantage of all the table offers. This is a common criticism of snooker players, that they fail to take advantage of the ability to cheat the pocket.
 
ShortBusRuss said:
Uh, no, they don't. There are elite players that do, but the ones who are a level below them don't and as such, that us why they tend to lose out in final 16 and above.

And you are comparing POOL, to a game that plays a lot closer to SNOOKER. Snooker prioritizes pure shotmaking over position. Snooker is NOT a game that requires precise position in the way pool does. The balls get spread apart further, and any game that allows the balls to spread further apart, requires less and less precise position as a general rule. Pool tables are smaller than snooker, and therefore require more precise position, especially on slick tables.

I will give it to you that Chinese 8 ball prolly requires precise position just because of the difficulty of the pockets.. But there are two aspects to getting that position.. 1. Playing to a specific side of the pocket + same stroke speed, resulting in different CB ending points, and 2. Playing to the center of the pocket, and using ultra precise stroke spin + spin.

Either one of these requires playing the OB to a specific part of the pocket. #2 requires that point to be center of the pocket. The strokes needed are not the same, however. #1 in pool, is simply taking advantage of all the table offers. This is a common criticism of snooker players, that they fail to take advantage of the ability to cheat the pocket.
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This is a nonsensical comment tbh...

Not even sure how to approach rectifying a lot of the strangeness inside of it lol
 
ShortBusRuss said:
Uh, no, they don't. There are elite players that do, but the ones who are a level below them don't and as such, that us why they tend to lose out in final 16 and above.

And you are comparing POOL, to a game that plays a lot closer to SNOOKER. Snooker prioritizes pure shotmaking over position. Snooker is NOT a game that requires precise position in the way pool does. The balls get spread apart further, and any game that allows the balls to spread further apart, requires less and less precise position as a general rule. Pool tables are smaller than snooker, and therefore require more precise position, especially on slick tables.

I will give it to you that Chinese 8 ball prolly requires precise position just because of the difficulty of the pockets.. But there are two aspects to getting that position.. 1. Playing to a specific side of the pocket + same stroke speed, resulting in different CB ending points, and 2. Playing to the center of the pocket, and using ultra precise stroke spin + spin.

Either one of these requires playing the OB to a specific part of the pocket. #2 requires that point to be center of the pocket. The strokes needed are not the same, however. #1 in pool, is simply taking advantage of all the table offers. This is a common criticism of snooker players, that they fail to take advantage of the ability to cheat the pocket.
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You are nuts son.
Ko hits them like no other pro.
Has nothing to do with cheating the pocket.
 
SBC said:
Well I'm not some Euro league transplant wanna be American hater like you.... anytime you want to back it up...let me know. I come from a place where you can run your mouth and believe whatever you like, but you back up your a$$umptions with money.
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I appreciate how you feel, but in person Russ is a good guy, who is respectful of other pool players. He likes to play One Pocket and challenged me to a game years ago at DCC, and made a small donation to my trust fund. We had a good game and he was fun to play with. Online we all get out of line sometimes, myself included.
 
jay helfert said:
I appreciate how you feel, but in person Russ is a good guy, who is respectful of other pool players. He likes to play One Pocket and challenged me to a game years ago at DCC, and made a small donation to my trust fund. We had a good game and he was fun to play with. Online we all get out of line sometimes, myself included.
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I agree Jay but the constant US bashing got old long ago. That and the constant comparisons to snooker. I don't give a flying fk about snooker to be honest. BTW, you have any idea how much longer Ernie G. may be making cues? Just wondering.
 
garczar said:
Bergman plays little pool at all. People don't realize he was in the pool trenches starting as just a kid and there's a good chance he's had enough. I know folks in St.Louis and they rarely see him out.
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Yeh I grew up in st Louis I seen him alot playing in bars all around st Louis in the early 2000
 
trob said:
Svb is done. it’s just a paycheck for him since he finaly won a worlds championship. I’d be ok him being left off the mosconi cup

I can’t remember mikes Fargo rating but I was stunned recently when they showed it in the top 5
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Mike dechaine Fargo 806
garczar said:
He's gonna feel like Shane went and horse-f%^k'd him all over again. ;)
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Agree and Jayson shaw barely got attention
 
garczar said:
I agree Jay but the constant US bashing got old long ago. That and the constant comparisons to snooker. I don't give a flying fk about snooker to be honest. BTW, you have any idea how much longer Ernie G. may be making cues? Just wondering.
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No idea. He still goes into his shop every day as far as I know. I probably only chat with him a couple times a year. If I'm out that way I stop by and pay him a visit. We just talk about old times, when he and I used to play Banks. He loved that game. A lot of people don't know that Ernie knew how to not only make cues, but could use one effectively as well. You had to play some pretty good Banks to beat him. He kept me on my toes!
 
SBC said:
Well I'm not some Euro league transplant wanna be American hater like you.... anytime you want to back it up...let me know. I come from a place where you can run your mouth and believe whatever you like, but you back up your a$$umptions with money.
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Mature people use critical thinking to support their position. Not money. That’s childish.
 
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