Split the Difference vs CTE

[Renegade_56]

The simple ghost ball system puts the line of centers going to the center of the pocket.

So that seems mathematically correct to me.

 

[Bob Jewett]

So that seems mathematically correct to me.

And physically wrong.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

The simple ghost ball system puts the line of centers going to the center of the pocket.

So that seems mathematically correct to me.

And physically wrong.

It’s correct if the center of the pocket is where you want to aim the shot, but that usually isn’t quite the case (without gearing English). I assume most ghost ball aimers make the slight adjustment unconsciously - a common practice in all kinds of aiming.

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[Renegade_56]

And physically wrong.

Apparently,,,,,,, so then what would be the correct way to aim with ghost ball,,,,,,,,, I may learn here why it never worked well for me?

 

[Bob Jewett]

Apparently,,,,,,, so then what would be the correct way to aim with ghost ball,,,,,,,,, I may learn here why it never worked well for me?

You have to include throw, which could be in either direction and it varies with speed and draw/follow. That will give you a different location for where the cue ball must be when it touches the object ball.

 

[Thresh]

Here's a video of an aiming system called by that name. Is that what you are referring to?

This video is deceiving.

Anyone that knows Poolology will be able to very quickly realize this entire video, if I remember correctly, involves the exact same 3 shots regardless of where he was on the table with the cue and object ball.

It's 3/4 ball, half ball, 1/4 if I remember correctly, I don't want to watch the video again.

I think the first 5 minutes explaining the first pivot every single shot is exactly a 3/4 ball hit.

So yeah, the pivots with for these specific shots there is no good examples of anything in between these shots.

 

[dendweller]

There are a lot of variations of CTE on youtube so it's easy to get confusing information on it. The info Larry gave you was good.

There is no of aiming accurately and consistency that does not require understand, patience, and work. Just because a few people don't understand it or won't work on it doesn't mean it don't work.

I agree, it takes work and effort. And people pick the method they think will work for them to get where they want to go. From what I've seen of CTE, that not it for me. Everyone is different.

 

[boogieman]

This video is deceiving.

Anyone that knows Poolology will be able to very quickly realize this entire video, if I remember correctly, involves the exact same 3 shots regardless of where he was on the table with the cue and object ball.

It's 3/4 ball, half ball, 1/4 if I remember correctly, I don't want to watch the video again.

I think the first 5 minutes explaining the first pivot every single shot is exactly a 3/4 ball hit.

So yeah, the pivots with for these specific shots there is no good examples of anything in between these shots.

If you watch the 3 videos I think I remember them breaking and applying this. Really though for a starting point if you go about 3-4 initial alignments you can micro adjust for the rest. It's not the way I like doing it but it is workable. When he splits the difference he's basically offloading the calculations to his subconscious.

I played with the system a bit and it does work but I personally didn't find it precise as whatever way I aim now. You could be a god on a 7' valley with this system.

 

[JoeyInCali]

Hmmm.... Pivot: A lateral rotation/movement of the cue stick, based on a fixed point, like the rotation or movement of an airplane propeller. With a cue stick, the fixed point could be the bridge hand or some imaginary point between the bridge hand and the grip hand.

Pivoting the cue to land it exactly on the shot line relies on aquired or subconscious knowledge/awareness, whether it's being used as a BHE method or an actual aiming technique.

If you pivot from where your standing, is that a pivot?

 

[BC21]

If you pivot from where your standing, is that a pivot?

Of course. But that's not a cue pivot. It's a whole body pivot or upper body pivot. Or, as I think Stan Shuffett would say, an "air" pivot or "disguised" pivot.


That type of turning/aligning your body (stance) and cue to the shot is a natural approach to aiming, rather than coming down on one line and then pivoting your cue to another and shooting from there. Sure, that's how backhand english can be applied, but I don't believe that's the most efficient way to develop consistent aiming skills.

Just to be clear, I am 100% opposed to pivoting the cue away from the line in which your stance was built.

 

[JoeyInCali]

Of course. But that's not a cue pivot. It's a whole body pivot or upper body pivot. Or, as I think Stan Shuffett would say, an "air" pivot or "disguised" pivot.


That type of turning/aligning your body (stance) and cue to the shot is a natural approach to aiming, rather than coming down on one line and then pivoting your cue to another and shooting from there. Sure, that's how backhand english can be applied, but I don't believe that's the most efficient way to develop consistent aiming skills.

Just to be clear, I am 100% opposed to pivoting the cue away from the line in which your stance was built.

It's only a pivot if you bridge on the same exact line you imagined was the line before the shift to the side to me.