yes, any amateur event should have the payouts strung out far into the field so many can be happy to say hey i got in the money. even if its not high enough to equal the entry fee.
but that still takes away the largest amount of the fund to the top players unless they have to give enough weight to make their matches very uncertain.
Side question, why is the mentality there that you have to have a chance at winning or you wont go? We have all open tournaments and they are always full. I and others lose every week and we become stronger players for it, iron sharpens iron is the general attitude. Could this be why the us is producing weak players?
I think this is true in all sports.I hear you but half the field of Matchroom open events are dead movey.
You nailed it.Side question, why is the mentality there that you have to have a chance at winning or you wont go? We have all open tournaments and they are always full. I and others lose every week and we become stronger players for it, iron sharpens iron is the general attitude. Could this be why the us is producing weak players?
Pretty sure you have to qualify to play in the US Open in both golf and tennis. You can’t just pay your entry and show up.I think this is true in all sports.
Because we have a generation who are now of age that were raised with the ideals everything should be fair, you get an award for just showing up, there are no winners and losers and they deserve everything without putting in the work.Side question, why is the mentality there that you have to have a chance at winning or you wont go? We have all open tournaments and they are always full. I and others lose every week and we become stronger players for it, iron sharpens iron is the general attitude. Could this be why the us is producing weak players?
Yeah, I think you are right. If the lower level player works hard and exceeds his performance, let him have a little reward. And he can be happy about it, but don't get too happy about out running a 6-2 spot.I say no. As a mid 500 player I get and give up handicaps. Mostly give them up. At no point have I ever felt I should be handicapped to a level playing field with the opponents better than me. They have put in the time and effort to be at that level. Why should I have an equal chance with them? 60/40 is about right. When they play bad and I play good I can win.
As for giving up the spot, that really doesn't bother me. As long as the opponent is graceful in their win. Nothing worse than giving up a big spot and losing only to hear your opponent bragging about how they beat you. Yeah, no you didn't, you won two games to my 5 in a 6-2 race.
This scenario happen recently in a league match. He is still walking around with a boner crowing about it. Comical really.
Because we have a generation who are now of age that were raised with the ideals everything should be fair, you get an award for just showing up, there are no winners and losers and they deserve everything without putting in the work.
A friend of ours is an executive at Disney. She had an intern who had been there 6 weeks walk into her office (without an appointment) demanding a promotion and pay increase. Her response? “It’s been nice having you here. I wish you well in your career.” That was that. Good for her.Right. How many people of any generation would be happy if their skills were handicapped at a job interview?
I agree. for me, it is a lot more fun to play against people around my same speed or a little higher. as others have stated, you dont learn much by sitting in your chair getting steamrolled.I think players would like to not expect to face an overly skilled opponent
In golf anyone with a 1.4-handicap or better can try to qualify for the US Open. Roughly 60-or-so make the field of 156 players. The rest are exempt in some way.Pretty sure you have to qualify to play in the US Open in both golf and tennis. You can’t just pay your entry and show up.
The old pool adage 'you have to get beat on to get better' deal is true TO A POINT. You don't get better by getting 'hammered', you get better by being in position to win against players 'roughly' your own speed and working your way up against the next level players. IMO you learn something at all levels: A. Smoking easier players, B. Dogfights with equal players, and C. Getting tortured by those well above you. Mixing playing both Fargo and open events can't do anything but help you get better.I agree. for me, it is a lot more fun to play against people around my same speed or a little higher. as others have stated, you dont learn much by sitting in your chair getting steamrolled.
as for tournaments or handicaps or awards or whatever else, none of it really matters to me, despite being part of the so called “participation award” generation. maybe winning awards used to be a bigger deal to people in the past? the only time i hear anyone talking about trophys of any kind is when people are complaining that not everyone should have one. Who gives a shit about a trophy lol
i just like to roll the balls around and have a good time. the reason i play pool is for the enjoyment of it and i dont need to win anything to get that. i realize that may put me in the minority here, but not everybody can be a winner. maybe if i was better at pool i would care more about this stuff
I fully agree with this, IF we were discussing a monthly and competition designed event. Cheap weeklys meant to just keep regulars engaged should just be friendly and those expecting to win shouldn't expect to offset their mortgages with prize money.Half should always goes to first in a weekly. Never pay out more than the top 25% of the field except if there are only 10 or 11 players in which case you pay to third.
Praying out less than the entry is ridiculous.
I think those that claim the above aren't being attentive enough. I was steamrolled the other week by a ~715. Dude crushed me 7-1. I learnt several things from how he broke, shot selection and alternative patterns to deal with clusters. Sure that doesn't mean every "steamrolled" situation reveals such knowledge, but I made it a point to watch, and I subsequently learned.I agree. for me, it is a lot more fun to play against people around my same speed or a little higher. as others have stated, you dont learn much by sitting in your chair getting steamrolled.
I think you answered your own question. Maybe older generations care(d) more about winning because it was celebrated as unique. Now that we live in the days of everyone being a hero just for showing up. It has dimmed the luster from actually being special on that day...?as for tournaments or handicaps or awards or whatever else, none of it really matters to me, despite being part of the so called “participation award” generation. maybe winning awards used to be a bigger deal to people in the past? the only time i hear anyone talking about trophys of any kind is when people are complaining that not everyone should have one. Who gives a shit about a trophy lol
i just like to roll the balls around and have a good time. the reason i play pool is for the enjoyment of it and i dont need to win anything to get that. i realize that may put me in the minority here, but not everybody can be a winner. maybe if i was better at pool i would care more about this stuff