straight rail

I forgot to ask how many points to determine avg...plus, where do you start from?

Straight rail ..still gonna try it.

I'm a tad peeved at 3c. People only play for time and they have raised my handicap to where if I win, I have to play so well they raise me up again...same crap happened with pool.
How the F are you gonna say somebody plays well enough to have to give a big handicap AND THEN take offense if he plays to that level? Whaddya think play of that quality looks like?

Conquered? Sheeeeeat. I'm a victim!
well you gotta play someone lol



play till 25 innings or something like that and see how many you make
 
well you gotta play someone lol



play till 25 innings or something like that and see how many you make
I will try it...at home where I can't make myself count and at the room where it is easy
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This is the chart used by the Fédération Française de Billard for the categories.

DISTANCE is the number of points to go to in a game, and games are usually limited to a certain number of innings.
I think for the Partie Libre (straight rail)
- Normale is limited to 30 innings
- Reduite 1 is limited to 25 innings
- Reduite 2 is limited to 20 innings
This may have changed in the last year or two. I couldn't find any official corresponding inning limits, but I'll ask at the club tonight.

MOYENNE is the average pts/inning for the year to qualify for that category.
 
I love the fact that there are still people playing straight rail. But SR is a bit of a Janus Head: challenging and interesting if you haven't yet mastered it, and a "been there, done that" experience once you have. Thankfully, there's a natural promotion to the balkline games once you've managed to reduce SR to six, seven semi-difficult points followed by a few hundred in the Serie Americaine. My advice to anyone who comes from the world of pool and wants to try SR: get a (much) lighter cue with a smaller diameter tip. Around 480 grams and 11.2 mm, that will help you a lot when the three balls are relatively close. Not everybody survives the SR grind phase: the road from 1 average to 2 average is longer than the one from 5 to 100.
 
I can verify the first leg of the road is longer if you don’t have anyone to learn from

I’ve scowered the internet of all videos and several training manuals
There are just some things you have to learn in person
 
I love the fact that there are still people playing straight rail. But SR is a bit of a Janus Head: challenging and interesting if you haven't yet mastered it, and a "been there, done that" experience once you have. Thankfully, there's a natural promotion to the balkline games once you've managed to reduce SR to six, seven semi-difficult points followed by a few hundred in the Serie Americaine. My advice to anyone who comes from the world of pool and wants to try SR: get a (much) lighter cue with a smaller diameter tip. Around 480 grams and 11.2 mm, that will help you a lot when the three balls are relatively close. Not everybody survives the SR grind phase: the road from 1 average to 2 average is longer than the one from 5 to 100.
One can cut time on that. Shooter´s pool is actually very good learning tool. Especially when FInland have zero good carom players or less than 10 tables.. One can watch and/or save replay of shot(s) mathces and analyze what happens. What cut and spin good player use etc... I had ZERO carom knowledge or experience before I tried straight rail there. Nice thing is also that it have stats from every shot from total noob from this day. I think i stopped playing it when I got around 5 and moved to 3 cushion.


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So here are my stats that includes learning to game on my own. My real avg is around now 5 but i stopped playing it because have only so much time. It also seemed to translate to real table every well what i tested. Real table many shots are easier but nudging is a lot more easy than online. Online also you don´t have feel of speed so well so it is hard but view is not really 3D so we miss a lot of shots because our "view" is wrong. So they even out. Something is easier on computer(like always perfect stroke) but view is cripling many shots.
Anyways there is Straight Rail and One/3-Cushion too Blackballed ;)
One Cushion I played just handful of games and it is hard game. I think to master it to level where it looks like your playing balkline is just nuts!

P.s that max run was ended because match ended :D I was on roll haha. Also 90% of games are race to max to 50 point.most of time just to 20 points because that table always had players on...
 
One can cut time on that. Shooter´s pool is actually very good learning tool. Especially when FInland have zero good carom players or less than 10 tables.. One can watch and/or save replay of shot(s) mathces and analyze what happens. What cut and spin good player use etc... I had ZERO carom knowledge or experience before I tried straight rail there. Nice thing is also that it have stats from every shot from total noob from this day. I think i stopped playing it when I got around 5 and moved to 3 cushion.


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So here are my stats that includes learning to game on my own. My real avg is around now 5 but i stopped playing it because have only so much time. It also seemed to translate to real table every well what i tested. Real table many shots are easier but nudging is a lot more easy than online. Online also you don´t have feel of speed so well so it is hard but view is not really 3D so we miss a lot of shots because our "view" is wrong. So they even out. Something is easier on computer(like always perfect stroke) but view is cripling many shots.
Anyways there is Straight Rail and One/3-Cushion too Blackballed ;)
One Cushion I played just handful of games and it is hard game. I think to master it to level where it looks like your playing balkline is just nuts!

P.s that max run was ended because match ended :D I was on roll haha. Also 90% of games are race to max to 50 point.most of time just to 20 points because that table always had players on...
You average 5 on the computer or on a real billiard table?
 
I love the fact that there are still people playing straight rail. But SR is a bit of a Janus Head: challenging and interesting if you haven't yet mastered it, and a "been there, done that" experience once you have. Thankfully, there's a natural promotion to the balkline games once you've managed to reduce SR to six, seven semi-difficult points followed by a few hundred in the Serie Americaine. My advice to anyone who comes from the world of pool and wants to try SR: get a (much) lighter cue with a smaller diameter tip. Around 480 grams and 11.2 mm, that will help you a lot when the three balls are relatively close. Not everybody survives the SR grind phase: the road from 1 average to 2 average is longer than the one from 5 to 100.
If you can remember that far back, what's the difference between stages where a player averages 1-2, 3-5, 6-12, 12-30 ?

In other words, what is the difference between running 10, 20, 30, or 50 points?
 
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You average 5 on the computer or on a real billiard table?
As I said both are pretty similar. Now I haven´t played straight rail in ages so probably dropped quite a lot but I know I would get it back where it was pretty fast. Straight rail also boosted my pool game a ton, real one.
 
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As I said both are pretty similar. Now I haven´t played straight rail in ages so probably dropped quite a lot but I know I would get it back where it was pretty fast. Straight rail also boosted my pool game a ton, real one.
I find it hard to believe that real life and simulation are pretty similar.

Anyway, what was your progress like in the game. Did you just start out averaging 5? What did you learn on your way to averaging 5...(in the club vs in the matrix)?
 
One can cut time on that. Shooter´s pool is actually very good learning tool. Especially when FInland have zero good carom players or less than 10 tables.. One can watch and/or save replay of shot(s) mathces and analyze what happens. What cut and spin good player use etc... I had ZERO carom knowledge or experience before I tried straight rail there. Nice thing is also that it have stats from every shot from total noob from this day. I think i stopped playing it when I got around 5 and moved to 3 cushion.


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So here are my stats that includes learning to game on my own. My real avg is around now 5 but i stopped playing it because have only so much time. It also seemed to translate to real table every well what i tested. Real table many shots are easier but nudging is a lot more easy than online. Online also you don´t have feel of speed so well so it is hard but view is not really 3D so we miss a lot of shots because our "view" is wrong. So they even out. Something is easier on computer(like always perfect stroke) but view is cripling many shots.
Anyways there is Straight Rail and One/3-Cushion too Blackballed ;)
One Cushion I played just handful of games and it is hard game. I think to master it to level where it looks like your playing balkline is just nuts!

P.s that max run was ended because match ended :D I was on roll haha. Also 90% of games are race to max to 50 point.most of time just to 20 points because that table always had players on...
I don't see your average on the computer game stats page.
 
I don't see your average on the computer game stats page.
it is below max break 3.32 but that is all time stats when i started learn game. I was long under 1. I still got it there over 3. I was averaging 5-10 regular last 30 games.
 
it is below max break 3.32 but that is all time stats when i started learn game. I was long under 1. I still got it there over 3. I was averaging 5-10 regular last 30 games.

Sounds like you had some breakthroughs. What were they?
 
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Sounds like you had some breakthroughs. What were they?
Just little bit more accurate on every aspect. i studied a lot of slow rolling carom angles and learned even calculate them. I don´t use calculations normally but some shots when i try learn them i might use. Also when I started learn 3-cushion too alongside there came many more shots to arsenal. I did also search videos about different gathering shots and practiced those alone. Played a lot with Turkish guy who did put 100+ runs and studied he´s play. You can replay shots frame by frame if you want see spin he uses or thickness of cut. saves a lot of time.
Also played a lot of very good Korean 3-cushion player who has 3-cushion high break 30+ on 7ft table(real money game). not remember his 10ft scores. Playing with good players and study them accelerate learning.

Last and biggest still was getting real 10ft carom table in our club finally :D
 
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I tried 1 rail yesterday and averaged 1.5.

Got 2 in first inning and then gave up after 1 and a confusing position for a second shot!

Deceptively difficult. I'll try to give it a real go sometime in the future.

Are you all using 3 or 4 balls to play SR?

How about the balls? 3c balls or the bigger 4b ones.

And what size table?

Asking for a fiend.
 
I tried 1 rail yesterday and averaged 1.5.

Got 2 in first inning and then gave up after 1 and a confusing position for a second shot!

Deceptively difficult. I'll try to give it a real go sometime in the future.

Are you all using 3 or 4 balls to play SR?

How about the balls? 3c balls or the bigger 4b ones.

And what size table?

Asking for a fiend.
Bruh this is a straight rail thread
And there is a 1 cushion thread

Sr is played with 3
Korean 4b uses 4

Balls are all standard 61.5 mm
The Korean balls are bigger like 65 mm
Any size table doesn’t matter
 
I love the fact that there are still people playing straight rail. But SR is a bit of a Janus Head: challenging and interesting if you haven't yet mastered it, and a "been there, done that" experience once you have. Thankfully, there's a natural promotion to the balkline games once you've managed to reduce SR to six, seven semi-difficult points followed by a few hundred in the Serie Americaine. My advice to anyone who comes from the world of pool and wants to try SR: get a (much) lighter cue with a smaller diameter tip. Around 480 grams and 11.2 mm, that will help you a lot when the three balls are relatively close. Not everybody survives the SR grind phase: the road from 1 average to 2 average is longer than the one from 5 to 100.
By the way. I never realized you are the co-commentator of many those mathces i love to watch where Blomdahl is also commenting. You two are perfect combo. I like your commentary as well when you alone. Very classy and is spot on 3-Cushion. I just love Blomdahl matches so much because i learned more from those than anywhere else :)

Thanks for all work you do for sport! I found your page of carompedia too. very cool!
 
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