Great post!!
To each their own. But from a turnout and participation standpoint, split brackets seem to have a lot of momentum right now. If a given player likes the format, then play. If they don't, then don't play. Pretty simple.
Fargo Caps = The dumbing down of pool
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To each their own. But from a turnout and participation standpoint, split brackets seem to have a lot of momentum right now. If a given player likes the format, then play. If they don't, then don't play. Pretty simple.
Keeping the cap the same number day in and day out, city in and city out, is my main issue. I honestly don't think the TD's even think about shifting them around. They just picked the same number everyone else does, because "it's a nice round number". I doubt shifting the number would affect participation.
George the Greek
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Here in Nova Scotia they use the FR for entry fees and I believe the cutoff is around a 690 but not 100%sure. They draw alot of players to the events and everyone plays even. They have cue raffles, 50-50 draws, 10-ball challenge ( was $835/ball) and draws for the top 3 per FR bracket. It's definately working here and the top 16 in the Predator Tour here go to Que to play in a 64 field with $10K added.
Speaking for your nit self i see.
That would be amazing. Id play in everything.
Who wants to play against a bunch of people who suck?
Nits everywhere you look
Sounds like your promoters have found a good formula.
If they're going to cap, they do need to vary it. It might be a good idea to vary the format and entry as well, like a 450 cap with a $20 entry and races to three at the low end. Get the players who have never entered a non-league event into tournaments.
George the Greek
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The guys/ladies that run the tournaments do a bang up job. They coordinate all the events so no conflicting dates other than one junior event on the same day. I think there's events for the lower FR"s but not sure. The last Provincial event (8-ball) had 66 guys and 18 ladies playing their event at the same venue. As far as FR go I have no idea if there are any that play higher here than a 690. I'll learn more as I go along and get out more
And yet you're not on the good action list. At least I gambleSpeaking for your nit self i see.
That would be amazing. Id play in everything.
Who wants to play against a bunch of people who suck?
Nits everywhere you look
But the communist countries are a lot better at pool than the USA?
Don't feed the bear. He lives for the shit.
To support pool is my excuse. If the entry is within my recreational budget I don't mind being a donor. Somebody's got to support the real pool players.
Rather than having an even distribution of FR's represented in the winning categories, the top FR players all won.
Had that kind of handicapping worked, the distribution of FRs across the winners would have been <well> more random.
so basically those who would play in the open tournaments and have no chance at all of winning any significant money do it for enjoyment or whatever. so it is basically a donation to the better players so you can play with them.
thats okay. but no way is it fair. you are being taken off but you have decided it is worth it.
but would you enter if the fee was in the high hundreds of dollars or much more. most would not. so its a cost thing not a fight for what is right to you.
thats okay. but no way is it fair. you are being taken off but you have decided it is worth it.
but would you enter if the fee was in the high hundreds of dollars or much more. most would not. so its a cost thing not a fight for what is right to you.
the wsop had over 10,000, yes ten thousand entries, into a poker tournament with a ten thousand dollar buy in.
yes 10,000 dollars for one tournament.
a hundred million dollar total prize pool.
know why because it is set up to make every single one think or believe they have a real chance of winning or at least collecting a big prize by making the money list.
of course poker is bigger than pool now but not in the far past.
that is why poker has big entries for big money and pool cant even get full fields for peanuts. the lesser players are just donating and only donators put up with the situation..
yes 10,000 dollars for one tournament.
a hundred million dollar total prize pool.
know why because it is set up to make every single one think or believe they have a real chance of winning or at least collecting a big prize by making the money list.
of course poker is bigger than pool now but not in the far past.
that is why poker has big entries for big money and pool cant even get full fields for peanuts. the lesser players are just donating and only donators put up with the situation..
stewie
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Isn't that a contradiction? Fair chance, but then somebody is favored?
I kinda get where you are coming from. Putting fargo caps on handicapped tournaments is ultimately the APA-sation (is that how you write it?) of tournaments. It's like the 23-point rule.
I'm saying a capped event (where the participants all play even) is an unfair way to do a handicapped event, period.
A handicapped event, by whatever method is chosen to handicap it, should offer each participant roughy equal odds. That way you get bangers that can't hold a stick, up to top level players that might run a 4 pack, each able to mix it up in local tournaments. None are excluded, and they all feel they have a chance, so they all keep coming back.
Fair? What about all the time the top guys put into their game? You play 2 hours a week and they play 50 hrs a week for years or decades.
Hell, 95% of the pros have no chance of winning.
Both handicap and open events have their place, up to the individual to decide what is the right option
Pool and poker are 180° from eachother, there is no comparison and trying is just silly.
Huh!? Top players get to the top in 2-4 years of picking up a cue. The rest of us could play 24/7, for 30 years straight, with Efren whispering in our ear every shot, and never get close. It's not a time spent proposition. It's an innate talent. Not trying to turn this into a nature-nurture debate, we've had a million of them already.
We will disagree
all is good though.