Predator Challenge of Champions. Fedor vs Filler vs Biado

Frost has been an excellent surprise as a commentator for a few years now.
I'm with you on that, although I don't feel he became an elite commentator until 2023. Like you, I didn't see it coming, but Scott's commentary is absolutely superb.
 
matchroom commentators are better
when they don’t force the british terms
on the game of pool such as

draw level
three- nil
pot the ball
cannon the brown seven
third frame
on the trot
total clearance
break off shot
with pace
into baulk
the rest
mid session interval
it went scrappy
force a decider

etc, screw, fluke, in-off

not that i don’t fancy
flawless sessions of snooker
with cracking pots and massive clearances,
delicate little nudges and telling safeties

i will admit that check side
is more precise
than inside english
especially if you are english
The terms I dislike are (1) double….it can stand up as a single but after that it gets insane….I‘ve had this out with English pros…now Stephen Hendry is calling them banks.
(2). Cannon….I feel the Brits misunderstood how the Europeans roll the R in ‘carom’.
 
The terms I dislike are (1) double….it can stand up as a single but after that it gets insane….I‘ve had this out with English pros…now Stephen Hendry is calling them banks.
(2). Cannon….I feel the Brits misunderstood how the Europeans roll the R in ‘carom’.
I guess the term 'cannon' comes from the way the shot is used in snooker (most often to split the pack - blow the pack open)

Took me a while to call a 'double' a 'bank', and switch from 'plant' to 'combo' - a 'kick' will always be a bad contact to me... will die on that hill, and I just say 'play off the (insert number) rail(s)' for the way Americans use kick... And I will never call 'throw/deflection' as 'squirt' 🤣

But living in China, a country with snooker background, most are familiar with the snooker terminology.
 
I guess the term 'cannon' comes from the way the shot is used in snooker (most often to split the pack - blow the pack open)

Took me a while to call a 'double' a 'bank', and switch from 'plant' to 'combo' - a 'kick' will always be a bad contact to me... will die on that hill, and I just say 'play off the (insert number) rail(s)' for the way Americans use kick... And I will never call 'throw/deflection' as 'squirt' 🤣

But living in China, a country with snooker background, most are familiar with the snooker terminology.
Here is a cannon at English billiards…I only see a carom.
Starting as a Canadian snooker player, I feel I’m bilingual ……I prefer kick over skid….but a frame is a game…..
I‘ve used the term ‘spin’ on both sides of the pond and sometimes get a bemused look…how can that be taken wrong?
 
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No, just no, banks is only relevant at derby city and there is no banks world championship to give a starting winner to challenge. Although 8 ball wasn't much better in this case.

Jaden
2 rotation games is one too many. Banks is played all over the world, don't be fooled thinking that it's just a derby event.
 
Here is a cannon at English billiards…I only see a carom.
Starting as a Canadian snooker player, I feel I’m bilingual ……I prefer kick over skid….but a frame is a ga…
I‘ve used the term ‘spin’ on both sides of the pond and sometimes get a bemused look…how can that be taken wrong?
Thanks for sharing that video. My grandfather was a very competent player of English billiards, but I have only dabbled playing my father when growing up, he used to play it as a warm up before kicking my ass at snooker. I only see a 'carom' in this context too.
I have some American friends here, and thankfully, they mostly just seem confused at the terminology. Although one is adamant that I should call things by the "right name" - which naturally must be his version... 🤣
 
2 rotation games is one too many. Banks is played all over the world, don't be fooled thinking that it's just a derby event.
Played yes, but where is it any event?

I love banks, grew up playing near Chicago and would love to see it, but it's not a championship game the public knows
 
Banks is played all over the world, don't be fooled thinking that it's just a derby event.
Rest assured, this is not true. Many Europeans with whom I've chatted at Derby City over the years have told me that they had never even seen bank pool played in Europe. To be honest, I can count on my fingers the number of times I've seen bank pool played in my hometown of New York City.

Bank pool is a game played in just a few places, but especially Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and Ohio.
 
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Yes, I WAS saying that Matchroom commentators say "the red three" and that I don't like it. Other than that, Karl, JJ ad Frost are all exceptional and far better than anyone who commentates Predator or WPA events.
How about just the color like in snooker?
 
How about just the color like in snooker?
Not a bad idea, but snooker balls have no numbers on them, so commentators cannot always say which ball is being shot at. In rotation pool, as a spectator, you only need know what the lowest numbered ball remaining on the table is, as the rules require that the shooter aim to hit that ball.
 
Come on man, for real? In snooker, there are no numbers, and the colors don’t change. In pool, there are numbers, and they keep changing the colors, assigned to the numbers! Hence, “the pink four”, “the purple five”, etc. I appreciate Karl calling this out.
 
the way i see it is matchroom knew snooker,
which has neither purple nor orange balls,
so mixing them up was just an accident

their target audience is not american
and the sing song voice guys in the
commentry box use snooker terms
all the time because
they just don’t know any better

so carom/cannon
draw/screw
bank/double
wired/plant
fine fine i get it, fine

what i want to know is where did
the term ‘english’ come from?
i asked an old british guy,
born in london 1955
and he said it came from football
(soccer)
 
Come on man, for real? In snooker, there are no numbers, and the colors don’t change. In pool, there are numbers, and they keep changing the colors, assigned to the numbers! Hence, “the pink four”, “the purple five”, etc. I appreciate Karl calling this out.
oh yeah...

:(


:p
 
I think 8ball should also be played on 4" Rasson tables. It has it's place as a game, but on those Predator tables, it's a snooze fest.

darren's WPS events made it interesting. and generated the most viewed rack of pool on youtube, melling's famous runout. if it wasn't take what you make, he wouldn't have started with that timing shot. also 4" pockets, reverse break box and shot clock (that darren himself opposes today, but that's another matter).

the ONLY thing that provides some variance and challenge to the predator 8-ball events is the slug racks they're getting..
 
the way i see it is matchroom knew snooker,
which has neither purple nor orange balls,
so mixing them up was just an accident

their target audience is not american
and the sing song voice guys in the
commentry box use snooker terms
all the time because
they just don’t know any better

so carom/cannon
draw/screw
bank/double
wired/plant
fine fine i get it, fine

what i want to know is where did
the term ‘english’ come from?
i asked an old british guy,
born in london 1955
and he said it came from football
(soccer)
Wired isn’t plant, that’s a combination. A combination can be wired , as can a plant. This one you can understand why combination isn’t used in snooker because the only plant is red on red, so you aren’t combining different ball types
 
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