International Open 9-Ball 2024, St. Augustine, FL, Nov. 18-22

I just watched a few matches. It is nice that you can watch matches on different tables; just choose the one you want to watch. Kill the audio on that table, and you can listen to the commentary (if you want to) on the feature table. As always the cameras on the feature table are good, although it seems to be too bright, especially on the overhead camera. The other tables have a single view and camera placement is good. A little dark, but actually pretty good to identify the balls. I have two 24 inch monitors on my desktop computer, so I watch 2 tables at once, gonna try to do more later this afternoon.
 
skip100 said:
Pay per view, interesting choice when nearly every other tournament nowadays streams for free.
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many that are free often have a business model where they're pushing a product (predator table, JOY table, UP league, etc) in addition to event sponsors. pat doesn't have that, so PPV makes sense. kinda steep price though
 
I won my first match 7-5. Right at the time limit. If my opponent had made it hill-hill, we would have had a lag for the remaining game.

I saw Pat an hour later, and said to him “the lag for winner after a time limit is the best rule I’ve ever seen. The number one important thing in a tournament is keeping the schedule. Not fairness. Not equipment. Schedule.”

I did see one match go to the lag at 6-4. It ended 7-5.

(Only for the 650, The pro matches play until completion).

Also found out the 650 is just like DCC. buyback into a blind redraw each round. I knew it was buyback, but thought it was buyback into the loser’s side.
 
jasonlaus said:
Since when are "opens" seeded? First round is an absolute massacre.

Hope those players got a discount on their entrance fee
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i think the international has been seeded since it's inception? at least i don't remember a completely random first round. what would be the benefit of that? completely random fedor could lose to kaci first round and knock out svb second round. bad for the event, bad for the players who make their living playing pool
 
skogstokig said:
i think the international has been seeded since it's inception? at least i don't remember a completely random first round. what would be the benefit of that? completely random fedor could lose to kaci first round and knock out svb second round. bad for the event, bad for the players who make their living playing pool
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Really bad for the majority of the players - at least half of them who have zero chance of a decent draw, and a guarantee first round loss.
 
jasonlaus said:
Really bad for the majority of the players - at least half of them who have zero chance of a decent draw, and a guarantee first round loss.
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Seeding is a tricky thing in pool. It protects the pros and hammers the weaker players.

Balancing that seems impossible. Like abortion, there valid arguments for both sides. For lack of a better comparison.

I sure don’t have an answer for either topic.

Pick your poison I suppose is the result

Fatboy<——-aspiring philosopher 😅
 
Fatboy said:
Seeding is a tricky thing in pool. It protects the pros and hammers the weaker players.

Balancing that seems impossible. Like abortion, there valid arguments for both sides. For lack of a better comparison.

I sure don’t have an answer for either topic.

Pick your poison I suppose is the result

Fatboy<——-aspiring philosopher 😅
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Seeding sells tickets. Promoters hope that the better/more known stars are around at the end. Its worked for tennis for a zillion years.
 
garczar said:
Seeding sells tickets. Promoters hope that the better/more known stars are around at the end. Its worked for tennis for a zillion years.
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It also evens the risk out. Not all that fair, if for example, Josh and Fedor meet each other in the first round, then Ko, then, Jayson, etc. whereas SVB clubs baby seals all the way through to the later rounds through luck of the draw. SVB cruises to the hot seat; Fedor/Josh is beat to shit having to run a much tougher gauntlet. It's not perfect but it helps.
 
Is there a schedule of matches online when they start? I am in the area for work but would need to take time off to go. Probably would be able to on Thursday.
 
JusticeNJ said:
It also evens the risk out. Not all that fair, if for example, Josh and Fedor meet each other in the first round, then Ko, then, Jayson, etc. whereas SVB clubs baby seals all the way through to the later rounds through luck of the draw. SVB cruises to the hot seat; Fedor/Josh is beat to shit having to run a much tougher gauntlet. It's not perfect but it helps.
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Fair is a blind draw
 
garczar said:
Seeding sells tickets. Promoters hope that the better/more known stars are around at the end. Its worked for tennis for a zillion years.
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I get that, I just don't like the the term "open" when the event is seeded.

It guarantees the top players an easier draw and more likely to make the $$$
 
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